Make this happen

Oh hell no. First come first serve is the only way.

I've definitely heard stories but I've never had need of this. Only once did my car tell me all the chargers were in use and that I'd have to wait a few minutes but someone left as I pulled in.

Yeah, we have reservations for our office chargers and it pisses me off when I park in a spot and it says that it’s reserved for John.

But it only reserves the spot once your vehicle is already on site.

Have you tried making a reservation? J/k, it's kinda funny though

I think it’s a good idea but only if it starts taking reservations after all stalls are full and the vehicles have to be on site to make a reservation. In the north east I have never needed this and have only used super chargers on holiday weekends.

I would, but whenever I do, some jerk will be parked in that spot while not charging or the charger is on the other side of the parking lot where tags on the map don’t match the real location. Etc etc… but hey, we have about 100 chargers and it’s free, so can’t complain.

ChargePoint? Yeah that shit annoys me. My company keeps a public list of EV owners with their ChargePoint usernames so we can Teams message or call them and be like "Hey Bethany, move your fucking Prius. You know by now that thing only needs 2 hours to charge up"

It could be something where you car gets assigned a number once you get to the chargers. Then you don't have to stay in an awkward line.

Depends where you are in the country, I guess. Sometimes there are long lines. Problem is that unlike gas stations, there's no clear way to "line up" in a parking lot. Tesla knows where your car is. It knows where the chargers are. The reservation system would intelligently accommodate your reservation as you arrive, minimizing wait time and contention over who got there first.

People who want this to happen rarely think about when it doesn't go perfectly. When the person who is next up left and is 5 minutes away in a bathroom, what then? How long does it wait? The answer obviously can't be zero. 5 minutes? That could be a 3rd of what the next person even needs. And if it doesn't just refuse to charge whomever isn't actually next then it's worthless as a tool. Let's say someone misses their window, do they go to the next next or the back of the line? Back of the line is way too harsh for someone who was 30 seconds late. Staying as the new next up means someone who just went to eat and dgaf what's happening can cause the max wait every single time there's an opening. Cutters suck but at least while people are arguing "I was next!" *someone* is in the stall using it. In aggregate the fastest way to get everyone through is to just get someone anyone in the stall asap. A little bit of backup caused by a line system could mean lines when they're otherwise might not be one at all later on.

In my ideal system there should be a courtesy "summon"-like feature the owner consents to that gives a green light for someone to unplug you when you're done, and then the car moves itself to the closest unused parking spot. I'm sure this is already technically possible but it's probably an insurance/liability nightmare.

Wireless charging

This is unnecessary, and invites nafarious actors. Everything can be handled in the car. A queued supercharger site can simply restrict someone who isn't in queue to charge yet. If there are any additional issues, they can be reported in the app.

Exactly, they do know all these things, but they don't need to put a sign on a charger, everything can be handled in the car's UI.

Good thoughts, but I don't think either of the conditions you mention are necessary. There's no harm in having a reservation if the stalls are less than full. It might be less than full now, but full by the time you get there. Also, if the reservation is made for you when you start navigation to the charging site (10, 20, whatever, minutes out), the system knows where you are, and isn't going to post your "Now Serving" number until you're on site. Having an overall awareness of the influx of cars before they get there, and their respective ETAs will help the system assign the reservations and minimize wait time for all.

I'm not sure what "this" is ("This is unnecessary") To the rest of the points, yes, yes, and yes :)

The sign on the charger shows you where your reserved spot is, and tells others it’s reserved.

Make it so a reservation can’t be *made* until vehicle is on site. Easy. Can make it precondition still

When charging is finished Optimus unplugs the car and fsd yeets the car away rather the owner is present or not. Got a problem with it they won’t fight a robot bruh. Optimus can throw hands /s

This is a California problem. In my 7 years of ownership I have only had to wait once, and it was for like 30 seconds.

It’s a California problem now. As the production of cars outpaces the production of superchargers, it will become an everywhere problem.

gets harder as you allow more third party users.

why not let you reserve a time based on when you'd get there? That would be a lot more convenient. And if your time slips due to traffic or whatever then slip the reservation. It's not complicated.

why on earth wouldn't you want to know ahead of time that you can charge as soon as you get there or know to go somewhere else if you can't? Seems like a huge waste to not allow reservations based on travel time.

the system would be able to tell you how long until your reservation is open. Then you just charge people $10 if it slips more than a few minutes. Doesn't seem that complicated.

you have to have a credit card on file to make a reservation so "nefarious actors" will get charged more than it's worth.

As someone who has driven across the country: Hell no. First come first serve. I never had to wait, and the WORST I have seen is like 8/12 chargers taken, usually it is more than 1/2 empty. Also, I am busy driving and don't have the time to reserve one, unless the Tesla nav auto did it, which I still think would be lame. I'm a speeder too, so if we are both roughly 10 miles out there is a high chance I am beating them there. What I would like to see is if it DID get full, any douchbag taking up 2 spots (I don't care if its "not your fault" it IS your fault, for buying the wrong EV) would have 30 seconds to disconnect and leave or the charger blows their battery up.

Too complicated for the average driver. The car should instead take over and go into FSD, whether you have it or not. As soon as you enter the boundary, the car assumes control and goes to a charger of its choice or allows you to select a spot depending on capacity

I think you're missing the point. Reservations are not required, in the same way that navigating to a charger to precondition your battery is not required. Don't want a reservation? Great - drive up and grab an open spot, if there is one. Again, Tesla knows where you are. All the time. You drive fast? Great - Tesla will dynamically be updating your ETA.

But if I get there and 1 spot is open and someone is 4 minutes away and they have it reserved... I could not take it, right? At a restaurant, if someone has a table reserved for 8pm, and you get there first, you can't take that table. It will be held for them until at least 8:10 or 8:15, Id imagine. I JUST went to the DMV to get a new license. Luckily, the wait wasn't too bad, but I just walked in. People with reservations who came in after I did got to go ahead of me - that's how reservations work. I don't think that would be fair for chargers. First come, first served. It WOULD be fair to limit people to like 80% at peek hours I guess (unless their trip computer has them going to a spot the need more in order to get to)

In that scenario, you would take the spot, and the person with the reservation would get the next available after their arrival. The system wouldn't needlessly keep a charger vacant, it would manage the flow and order in which users charge. In a scenario where all chargers are taken, and 6 cars are vying for a slot, the reservation system would hand out slots in the order that drivers arrive, not by virtue of who's the pushiest a-hole in the parking lot (the current system).

Some parking lot configs are hell when the stalls are spread out. Not every group of stalls is going to be in a clear line

Then Tesla would have to install a way to clean the windshield. Can't FSD with limited vision.

I like this idea

I think they should go the chargepoint way that I've seen at some company setups where you add to queue and you can only add if you're nearby, and if someone tries to use the next available stall and its not their turn then they aren't able to charge. They'd need to wait for their turn regardless that way. not a foolproof solution but the best I've seen.

Reservations need not be constrained by proximity. Knowledge of your approach is helpful for load balancing - it doesn’t tie up a charger.

The counterpoint is people reserving in advance and showing up late or not at all

As mentioned this is not an issue.

Hell no. May this never happen. Also what do you mean by “now serving”? I have never had to wait at a supercharger and I’m in Los Angeles 🤨

Do you want to share your reasoning?

It’s annoying having to find your number and where you should park etc, so much easier to just see an open one and take it. And also when would it assign it? Because literally it wouldn’t be able to assign until you are inside which defeats the purpose because what if you get assigned the last available one before arriving and then somebody cuts you off half a black away and goes in front of you? Now there’s traffic

A simple queuing system if there is a line with 5 minutes wait.

Or...here's a thought. Continue the mass expansion of the charging network. Before I moved, we had V4 charging stop that was left half finished for almost a year. It opened two weeks after I moved. Feels like they gave up on trying to expand the network at a rapid pace.

Idle fee after 30 seconds. $2/minute. Same as if you keep your car there after charging. Cancelling is manual. If you cancel, you go to the back of the line.

They invested the $$ to make 100 chargers and don’t have repercussions for ICEing them?

First come first serve >>

Thanks for the thoughtful contribution to the conversation.

And if the charger is broken, you’ll be stuck to it good lluck