New Tesla Optimus Video Shows Humanoid Robot Doing Household Chores

Trained only on 1st person video as claimed by tesla. That's an impressive game changer. I put more stock in it because it was an engineering guy at tesla not you know who making the claim. Combined with natural speaking grokAI and we are quickly approaching robot servants.

I’m still curious as to who is going to spend $30k on this.

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I need to get me a suit like that. I’m already doing the chores, might as well look the part 😁

very impressive

Early tech is always more expensive

If it's only $30k, I'd get it. But they need to teach it how to wash its hands first.

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Not really consumer yet. Every single production like and manufacturing company will want them, far far cheaper than a human.

They've got a really long way to go before that's useful in the real world, practical, and affordable.

Hmmm ... so human gets food and goods delivered without leaving the house, and if human does leave the house, he/she gets picked up off and dropped off by self driving cars, then when he/she is home, food is cooked, house is cleaned, laundry is done, cloths are folded, and the lawn is mowed. Seems like an easy effortless life, but scary at the same time because of how little human brain is going to be utilized and how much less of body movements are going to be reduced from not having to do much.

Remember when it was found out the last time they did a demo with the robots they were just remote controlled?

But more expensive than a purpose-built robot and less efficient.

thats amazing if its only $30k

$5k for a robot to take out my trash, do my laundry, and mow my grass would pay for itself in a year.

I highly doubt they could get it to the promised $30k in 10 years. There’s no way it can anywhere close to $5k.

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You never know 🤣🤣

Shit, just pick up my table and load the dishwasher and I'm a customer

People with a lot of money/large houses that need cleaning, lawn care, laundry, pool care, security, etc on a regular basis. Hell I could even see it working as a dedicated housekeeper for a vacation house, nearly no operating cost, no need to trust others, instant ability to check up on things on your own, remotely

Is this one remote controlled and tele operated like the last big demo? The one where they lied and pretended they were robots but were actually being operated by people remotely? Yeah that one.

I would 100% pay $30k for a robot that would manage my household

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Probably companies that need a security guard with built in sentry mode. Way more effective than some fat old man standing around looking at his phone the whole shift.

They lied at the party? I didn't say it wasn't remote controlled. Some even told you it was remotely controlled. The media made it so people think Tesla lied for rage bait and it worked. This one is neural network trained as stated by Elon.

One day. Long ways to go.

I think it will be crucial when Gen Z hits nursing home age. There’s not enough population growth currently to support the senior care that will need needed It’s already $10K/month in my area for assisted living. At that price it’s a no brainier to buy one of these and stay in your own home

I will once it gets good enough. If it can do daily chores and help out with some DIY shit, I'd buy it. But it has to work really well. In this current state, nah.

Now show what happens when the trash bag breaks open.

Looks like shit. Nice!

Soo.... We should believe him this time?

You know all those Chinese made goods we can’t make here? Now we can.

If it can be easily trained to do tasks and it does them well and reliably, I'd certainly consider it. $30k would mean no home chores ever again, a personal chef (could cook anything on demand, could manage your pantry and ensure minimal food waste, help with diet, etc...), a personal coach (teach you to play piano, dance, observe exercise and give tips, etc...), be extra hands when carrying heavy items, take care of pets when on trips, take care of you when you're sick, administer first aid, etc, etc, etc... When these things get good, they're going to be so fucking popular. It will seriously be the next tech wave, like the smart phone was.

what I'm seeing right now that thing is going to be more hassle than anything in your home. the answer for the next 10 years will be laborious, repetitive tasks found in manufacturing

How impressive this is depends entirely on how they actually trained this and how well it generalizes without needing specific training. Not something they can show in the video and not something I'm inclined to trust them on, given their history.

This thing will never be useful and safe whilst also being affordable to the everyday person

One giant step for future blobs. AKA humans.

No simulcast with the Indian call center where they are tele-operating these to show low latency?

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I highly doubt we'll see something that capable in our lifetimes. Thats more iRobot than this thing. Our tech level is still struggling with robot vacuums.

This is the worst it'll ever be. These robots will change elderly care for the rest of the human race forever. Imagine having a paramedic watching your grandparents 24/7, recognizing signs of stroke and heart attack, and able to perform skin-puncturing aid with the skill and precision of a doctor instantly rather than waiting for an ambulance to arrive. Robotics is the next age of human evolution, just the same as the computer was. These will fundamentally change the course of human evolution, guaranteed. It's still in its infancy, but look how far something like AI video generation has come within the last few years.

If it can do the dishes and load the dishwasher I am up for it.

Don’t need to remote control if your video only shows 10 seconds clips with all the tools and everything prepared.

Dang never considered this as security! Great idea.

No we're going to have a different set of hands for cooking that stay in the hand washer machine

Not bad for only 3 years of development

They need to find a video of that happening to an unfortunate someone to show it first.

Bro a couple years ago this robot was a dude dancing in a skin suit In a couple more years this thing will be i Robot level

Probably programmed to cook dinner after cleaning the toilets

Not gonna happen anytime soon or close to $30k.

People with a better imagination than you.

I mean at 30k it’s comparable to unitree

The robot is going to learn how to cry.

"Superman..." Whoops that is the robot teaching us how to cry...

[They can dance](https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1922456791549427867)

Yes but... It is doing almost exactly the same as that open source robot did, more than a year or so... That also used imitation training... Looks like there's still a way to go and initial crazy strides now seem to have met a wall.

Wouldn't a security cam be better? I highly doubt this thing is gonna learn enough to stop a human anytime soon.

As FSD shows getting to a good level of competency happens "quickly", getting to the level described above will take much, much longer.

Well that's the thing Every unit added to the network increases the speed of the network

Or it trips on a rug. I want to see it traverse the steps to my parents basement holding a bag of water softener, open the bag, open the lid, empty the bag into the water softener, repeat until water softener reservoir is full, close the lid, go back up the stairs, and throw away the softener bags. Take the trash can to the curb. The stairs have carpet on them. And the driveway is sloped concrete. These are the kind of tasks my parents can’t do. The other would be driving. Mom has been having brief blackout episodes and dad has limited reaction time in his feat since stroke.

Still doesn't solve the last % of competency they need for it to truly be a viable product in the way envisioned above. I'm not sure our software paradigms are even capable of that yet, even with tons and tons more training. After a point it's no longer about more training or more training data. The processes around training and the model itself need to be looked at. We're a couple ML breakthroughs away from a bot that competent. It'll probably become more and more useful, but as an all in one home assistant? That'll take a longgggg time.

I just started watching Murderbot, good show.

It would probably recognize that it has broken open and pick up the trash

Oh of course I mean yeah I can agree to that But really it just needs to nail two or three basic tasks at first Helping the elderly do daily stuff is going to be huge just by itself Go grab me a beer Ect

it’s a security camera that can go on patrol and check out things that aren’t on a preplanned route. i don’t think it’s meant for physical security but it can raise an alarm and that’s effective.

>*a pleasure model?* I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that *What's the problem?* I think you know the problem just as well as I do *I need to upgrade my XAi subscription to "Ligma Balls"?* Yes.

Teaching the robot to stir without holding the pot with the other hand 👌

Fold laundry and then I'm in

A step in the right direction, give it time and we’ll get there. Might look like shit now to some of you folks, but you have to start at the bottom.

"Fully Autonomous" 😂

More cameras? Genuinely not trying to be difficult but I've seen installations with lots, and lots of cameras. When well managed you can have one pretty much everywhere. With enough funding you can get a camera almost anywhere as well. They will raise alerts if configured to do so. Not saying this Optimus bot could never be useful for that, but doubt it can replace an actual guard.

Companies will...imagine having a robot repeat either a highly dangerous, or repetitive task 24/7 and you only need to pay 30K? Sounds a hell of a lot cheaper than paying an employee

Train them to establish a beachhead on Mars.

My kid learnt that in like 15 months of being alive, I'm sure the robot is already at that level.

This comment has "self driving cars will never exist" vibes.

We’re definitely going to find out ten years after these go on the market that it was people in India operating avatars in our house the whole time. Just like Amazon did with their stores.

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If this thing gets really good I’ll definitely spend $30k on it. That’s a steal!

This is why Tesla will be the most valuable company of all time.

That cooking bot looks like a fire hazard waiting to happen.

A wall that can only be overcome with the backing of say … a trillion dollar company headed by a mad CEO

Me.

This part legitimately made me angry.

It's never going to be truly practical. Take vacuuming, we already solved that by building robots for the task.

Who is going to let a killing machine be in their house while they sleep. Not to mention, who knows what it is recording.

i’m just trying to dream up possibilities. i think using multiple tried and tested cameras would be more effective than a robot in most cases for sure. the robot can’t be everywhere at once. i can see a use where if static cameras detect something, a robot is sent to investigate closely, maybe opening closets and picking up and checking objects up close. might be more effective to have a robot that can crouch to look under things if there’s a noise or maybe it carries sensors to detect things like chemical leaks that would be cost prohibitive to set up everywhere. but then it doesn’t necessarily have to be humanoid.

Why do I keep getting the feeling that iRobot was a documentary (Oh, and Terminator, etc.) 🧐

Also most of the clips look sped up.

Not really, just reads as they're much farther then they're trying to sell in this video. Obliviously we'll get there but people in this comment section are acting like it's only a couple years away when obviously it's not. Just look at self driving cars.

Why are they sped up?

And none of us can afford them anymore because they took our job and the government says socialism is bad.

Isn't it just amazing how they could make it so human-like? it's about as enthusiastic as my teenage daughter about emptying the bins.

They are showing progress, which is crucially important. I spend every day automating monotonous tasks so that people can have better lives. I think Optimus can already take away some of that drudgery.

Now sit on the couch and procrastinate all morning!

That’s amazing

Nonsense

I think our parents generation will miss out on the utility of robots for household chores. It will be super limited by the diversity of homes and types of trash cans, garbage bags, etc. The first phase of all this will be getting bots into homes. They will scan and harvest the most valuable data in the business world that has ever been readily available. Tesla will make $B from selling that to the home builders and trans can makers (in your example). Second phase is then having the trash can and trash bag makers create products specifically for ease of bot use. Third phase is selling those products into the market to complete the cycle. This will take 10-15 years IMO before you see the turnover of a household and facilities to optimize bot usage.

Businesses and eventually rich people who need house keepers. But if it can make money easily for most people then most people would own one. Definitely going to completely take over factory jobs for companies first before it becomes popular as a consumer product though🤷‍♂️

Maybe, but that problem doesn't need a bipedal humanoid robot. There are already plenty of cameras/quadcopters/etc, if all you need is monitoring. If the job requires actual physical security, this robot won't be capable of that for a very long time.

Remember when we had point and shoot cameras, video cameras, maps, news papers, VCRs, dvds etc... All replaced by the smartphone, the same will happen with humanoid robots rather than having 5 different single purpose robots (lawn, pool, floors etc,) it'll all be done by one

Pretty much everyone who can afford it?

I’m talking about new, low paying factory jobs no one wants.

Yet are right now filled by millions of American's and immigrants.

My teenager son does a better job

Because people don't have long attention spans. In this case it's quite obvious (it even reads on the video), so I wouldn't consider it an attempt to mislead.

It literally shows „2x“ in the corner. Come on.

They are probably 1.5x or 2x.. As it reads in the video :).

It says fully autonomous 2x. That doesn't say the video is sped up 2x. Also why speed it up other than to be disingenuous?

"Unknown skill, please hold, connecting you to remote teleoperator..."

What does "fully autonomous 2x" mean if not sped up by 2x? In any case, it's quite clear they're not trying to hide the fact that it's sped up, as anyone can see it from the video. They speed it up because people's attention span is atrocious, but of course also because it looks better that way.

At this stage it's totally useless, but let's see how much they can improve on it.

>vacuuming, we already solved that by building robots for the task. I have sunken lounges, robot vacuum cleaners are useless in my house.

yes hello, i wish pre-order a marcus. thank you.

the hand washer machine is another $3k

You should see the hand penis washer then Pre-orders are already sold out

I can't even imagine all the work that needs to be done cleaning up after it...

I see pot falling off the stew if he stir a little longer , for god sake you could at least simulate holding the pot

I said new factory jobs.

Slurps all the garbage juice

Ok, so the insane progress will stop today and it will never get any better. Right.

The moment it can come into a real life messy kitchen and clean it I will consider buying one.

Lmao this was done in 3 years, you can’t imagine it improving a lot in 30y? The brain rot is strong with the haters

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to see this and not imagine "take the knife and slice it across the throat of your master while they sleep on the couch" ending up as a prompt it very seriously considers and has been trained on.

I would if it was advanced enough

In my lifetime we went from brick phones and brick computers to smart homes, smart phones, smart cars, and literal robots. And I’m not even that old. I think skepticism is fine but you have already experienced change on a fundamental level in tiny bit of your lifetime. When my grandpa was a boy, the computer was not a thing. When my father was a boy, the internet was not a thing. And when I was a boy, the humanoid robot was not a thing. But who knows what will not be a thing for my son. A lifetime is much longer than you realize.

Personal chef, did you see how it stirred that pan

Becuase if they were natural speed it would look pathetic. They are already clumsy and slow. Now imagine they look clumsy and super slow. Take stirring in the pot as example. That is something that human can do super fast and accurately. The robot in the video not only moves slow, is already standing in the prepared spot, does it super slow, doesn't hold the pot, moves the pot while stirring etc etc. Now imagin it at half the speed. It would look like 90s toy robot. It may seem that this is a great advancement but it's not. We have extremely fast and precise robots in factories right now doing work. When optimus scoops up the the trash on the table it is painfully obvious it either doesn't know what is happening at all or it's prerecorded movement. If it was really trained on human videos it would go stright for the piece of trash that it missed. Instead it leaves it and then does many sweeps moving the dustpan all over the place because the operators hope it will sweep everthing for the video eventually. In none of the videos it walks up to the task, it 100% depends on everything to be positioned correctly.

Can't wait to have my own personal slave! Please Tesla!!

No... That happened because none of those take any physical space... If you buy a Tesla Optimus, you _also_ need vaccum... So it's not "done by one" anyhow.

This is all one neutral net that is capable of doing all these tasks and more. So no I very much doubt it is the same. Also they have been training it in actually use-cases for in the factory.

Adapt your house...

All NS-5s report for service and storage. /s

Nice robo... but very harmful to society if it replaces manual labor, their jobs, and livelihood

I want to see the robot get a step ladder and crush the bin bag into the bin by jumping on it.

God I can’t wait to own a droid! I’ll name it Elon and have it do my yard one blade of grass at a time

Nahh they should train him under Gordon Ramsay

Lol that's AI

This thing is a long ways away from being practical and affordable

Especially bad because it was taught with videos of a human doing the same. Who does that?

He’s going so slowly and the video is sped up. Ugh. Imagine waiting so long for it to get you a paper towel while your ice cream is dripping or something. Ugh.

That’d be pisser.

Or if the bag has more than just dry toilet paper in it

Having a flimsy bot follow prepackaged movements?

They can dance a specific set of small movements in one confined spot*

But wow look it can pick up a 0.5kg trash bag and lazily mush it where it should probably be!

> Detailed comment on why someone isn't very impressed > Dismissive 0-100 non-believer reply Yup, we're in Tesla land

Lmao surely it's more cost effective to import raw materials and use insanely expensive non-specialised robots, right? Right?

Why do you want America to go back to making low grade resources than high grade?

Trying to rewrite history just by claiming it wasn't heavily "look at our totally automatic robots! Speak to them!" lmao

I'd personally be worried if my car company started working on general robots. A company can't make everything, their target demo can't be everyone.

"grandad I understand that the tall looming robot standing in the corner triggers your PTSD and gives you heart palpitations but I promise it's here to help you in case you start to die. See you in a month!"

I hope one day I won't be replaced

Dude that’s a HUMAN IN A HUMANOID SUIT BULLSHIT

Those things are all literal 2d information.  It doesn’t have to do with the smart phone, it has to do with a uniform means of display… If anything a smartphone is actually just an internet connected camera that can display that stuff. This is a completely different idea to a general purpose robot imitating human beings.

Those robots are useless when not vacuuming though. Also are limited by a ton of factors.

Engineers who drink Soylent instead of cooking.

The blind leading the blind

We had smart home protocols with unified protocols that ran over power lines before you were born. We had in car navigation before smartphones existed. People are sold the illusion of breakthrough in consumer goods because marketing teams know that’s how to get people to buy stuff. Your iPhone this year isn’t really that functionally different than the first one from over a decade ago.  We just keep making the same kind of processors smaller and smaller.  And even the first iPhone was really only innovative in that it brought together a bunch of other, older technologies to improve the ergonomics and UI of palm devices that already existed.

You've inadvertently hit the nail on the head as to why robots like Optimus are going to be so revolutionary and ubiquitous over the next decade or two. We *could* have adapted our houses around machines ten even twenty years ago, but there is a huge sunk cost in existing housing, the majority of people simply don't want to have to adapt, and it's not always practical to adapt. We can't all live in bungalows and afford a dozen robots to carry out all these different tasks. It also ignores that we have in many cases tried to put less sophisticated machines in place to do some of these tasks for us, with varying degrees of success. If a single humanoid robot can replace a dozen whilst bringing new capabilities such as changing beds, dusting ceiling, closing the curtains at night, taking the bins out, etc. then it will sell in huge numbers. It will be able to adapt to our environment negating the need for people to completely rethink their houses.

It's worth noting that these are all pre programmed for demos. They won't have any value in the real world as all parameters would need to be adjusted for the place they are at. Probably very long way away from "Full autonomy"

Another thing to store, lose battery life and forget about. Also, is it me or are all these robots so terribly slow in doing stuff. At that speed it would anger me and I’d do it myself.

None of these are prepackaged tbh, you just enter natural language instructions (eg, “pick up the trash”) and the robots AI figures out what to do to complete that action

Our hard earned taxes at work here

But they are also _cheap_. I don't need a big robot that can do a lot. I only need a tiny one that can vacuum. Especially considering... I have to buy Optimus a vacuum too... Why not just buy one that vacuums itself and have Optimus do better things? It's just such a waste no matter how you flip it.

That's not happening. Tesla pays more taxes that it ever got from grants 100-1

But it _doesn't_ replace the vacuum... It replaces the _human_... Look at the video, you still have to get a vacuum. And sure, there is sunk cost to existing places. But also remember sunk cost fallacy. People _did_ adapt their lives to washing machines, dishwashers, and are now doing it with robot vacuums, and lawn mowers. I also don't need a robot to come in and move the curtains... I either do that by hand or _a small motor_... We literally already have a solution for that. The cost of this robot has to be dirt cheap to be able to compete with me doing stuff myself, other robots that already exists, and... human labour.

Imagine being able to own one robot that can use all the tools you already own to do all your chores when you're at work so that you can come home and enjoy family time and truly get time off to relax. That's what Optimus will do for us soon. 2-3 years max

But we already have that. Those are called maids. And what exactly is optimus going to do? Push the button on my vacuum so that it starts? Google already does that trough the API. Would be cool to see this come about. But the human body is made to run on the african plains. The design solution to "robot that helps at home" should be open to _way more_ solutions.

why do we only have robots with two hands? I think we are limiting their use by restricting their form to what we are comfortable with

> But it doesn't replace the vacuum... It replaces the human... Yes, it's human labour that these robots are trying to replace. Of course you still need to buy a vacuum. > And sure, there is sunk cost to existing places. But also remember sunk cost fallacy. The sunk cost fallacy doesn't apply as having dozens of robots and adapting houses to automation isn't the clearly better option. > People did adapt their lives to washing machines, dishwashers, and are now doing it with robot vacuums, and lawn mowers. Yes, I have all the above. I'll still get a humanoid robot when they become available at a reasonable price as despite the three robots I have and all those other machines I still pay for a cleaner to come to the house twice a week to cover all the things the robots and machines cannot do. > The cost of this robot has to be dirt cheap to be able to compete with me doing stuff myself, other robots that already exists, and... human labour. That's your use case, others have different needs. The elderly, the infirm, the time poor rich, all have different needs to you. There isn't a robot option to do the dusting, to clean the toilet, to clean the bath, to change the bedding, to clean the curtains, to take the bins out, to load the washing machine, to fold and put the laundry away, etc. So I pay out for human labour to do that for me - in my case because I can afford it and would rather spend my time elsewhere, but there are others like the disabled who need that help around the house because they are unable to do it for themselves. These humanoid robots replace that human labour. My cleaner costs me over £6,000 a year. If this robot cost even £18,000 yet replaced that human labour then it would be a long term saving for me alongside being available 24x7 instead of only occasionally. Tesla have stated they're targeting $10k cost for Optimus, even if it's double that they'll sell in huge numbers.

Light industrial shops. For example, if I work a machine press that knocks out steel parts and I toss them into a bin, a robot that's able to take them from the bin and get them into the shipping area would be worth 30-50k on a 3 year life span. There are a lot of small little jobs like that at factories and warehouses which suck down employee time but would be too expensive to normally automate. For example, Amazon warehouses are crazy automated, but they spent millions to figure that out. A humanoid level machine that can do really basic tasks that's easy to train would be worth 10-20k a year for a normal company. But what will get interesting is when the next generation robots come out and the old ones hit the used market at 10-20k. At that point I think you'll really start to see them take off all over the place.

how much this retails for

If you're gonna run tests on bots, you should at least use the normal ones. These bots obviously have downs. This is wrong.

A.W.E.S.E.M.O. Does not understand… … … Lame!!

>you still have to get a vacuum. I have a vacuum. I don't need to buy a specialized robot for every possibility, I can just hand the robot a tool I already own (or can borrow or rent) >The cost of this robot has to be dirt cheap to be able to compete with me doing stuff myself You could share a robot with 15 other people, have it do 5 hours a week of housework and have 5 hours more free time.

No it's not.

Hmm interesting thought, maybe they can make some sort of uv/infrared light that "cleans" the hands. Although i imagine they would want to waterproof them.

Pick up the pace slow poke!

No you're deliberately misinterpreting what he said even if you're "technically" correct which is disingenuous at best and a bad faith argument at worst. >We had smart home protocols with unified protocols that ran over power lines before you were born. That is not what was being referred to when mentioning "smart homes". You know, i know it, we all know it. >We had in car navigation before smartphones existed. You mean shit like TomTom GPS? I had one of those before the smartphone and it was complete and utter garbage - nothing like the navigation apps we have today. >People are sold the illusion of breakthrough in consumer goods because marketing teams know that’s how to get people to buy stuff. No, again bullshit. Not even technically correct. The average smartphone today is more powerful than the most powerful super computer used in the moon landing in 1969. Modern smartphones are **120 million times faster** than the Apollo 11 guidance system.

Progress usually isn't linear, it typically follows an exponential curve as breakthroughs are made. Assuming future progress will progress the same as past progress is foolish.

Makes me wonder if they will build into it night vision or other kinds of vision or if such features could be optinal add ons. So much customization could be possible it's kind of wild to think about.

Really? I think you're overestimating your ability to fight these things without a weapon. You think you can take on an Optimus 1v1 in hand to hand combat? What about five of them? Besides... i bet these things can easily be trained to wield a weapon themselves... and i bet their aim with a gun could be quite good and they could be given nightvision etc. Now understandably, training security bots to be robocops might be questionable... but i think it would honestly be trivial.

The Robocop model features Night Vision and is trained to wield a small firearm, tazer, and make emergency calls to 911. I mean... in theory you can do so much more with these than a security camera. Regulatory approval pending of course.

Almost as amazing as the $39,900 CyberTruck.

OK.... at least it used both it's arms when throwing out the trash, for the times you need a $30,000 robot to pick up a trash bag conviently next to a trash can. Mostly it was opening a cabinet door, a curtain or a microwave and then nothing. Did not move from the spot in any of the examples, which makes the vacuuming truly lame.

I'm not sure where anyone has said it's an either/or situation, so why are you acting like that's the case?

It’s not a waste at all lmao Let’s say you get 10 years out of the Optimus, that’s $3,000 a year to have a robot that will vacuum, clean, take out trash, fold laundry, tons and tons of applications that you would have to do yourself or pay someone an insane amount more to do. And that’s not even taking into account if you’re not using the Optimus to help you generate more income. Yeah, you can get a Roomba or Shark for $300-$1000, but that’s literally all it can do, it takes up space when it’s not being used and isn’t even that efficient (that being said, I fucking love my Roomba) You’re really underestimating just how valuable having a humanoid robot would be.

Fucking clanker.

First of all, how dare you. I don’t just stare at my phone. Sometimes I watch TV.

If they want to. But can they leave the world behind?

Needs more eye roll for authenticity

Based on linear progression, man should reach the moon in one million years.

Wait … We’re supposed to be *folding* our *whatnow?*

“ There’s a market for maybe 5 or 6 computers in the entire world.”

Definitely the engineer's fault in this case but the video also says that this was performed using a single end-to-end neural network. What that means is that the model can generalize to a wide range of tasks with just more data. But it also means that the engineers have very little control over _how_ a particular task is performed. (The tiny details) So to be honest I can think of 10 different ways that this robot can fail at just stirring (sloshing liquids of a different density than the training data, crushing fragile stuff, non-homogenous mixing, etc.). So this is still very far from a useful product and it's not even clear if just training it on more data is the right way to approach the problem.

The first use of these robots should be as prison workers.

Then a human cleans it up. It's about better not perfect, jfc.

"Soon" is relative. Look where these robots were even 10 years ago.

Ah yes, the daily chore of picking up model x car parts and putting them on a ramp...

I didn’t say that. I said this is a way to get more factories in America making all the small things we import from China.

I think these things will be plenty strong.

The pace of development is increasing as it's become a very competitive sector, I can see pretty useful multi-purpose robots within 10 years, many Chinese firms are heavily automating everything.

It just takes off its hands, puts them in the dish washer and attaches the second pair of hands.

I can use a small fleet of robots to operate a cleaning company. Just one of many use cases. As for around the house - if it can do 80%+ of my cleaning, that alone might be worth it.

The physics aren't there. To have a robot that runs for more than a few minutes, you need a massive battery, is it then all motor based? (heavy), is it hydraulic-based? (dangerous if something goes wrong), regardless it's very top heavy, so it can't do anything with a lot of weight or inertia. Or you make it bigger to compensate like Atlas, but that isn't suitable for most homes. It just doesn't work.

I don’t think they’re going to be superhuman, but I think they’ll be at least as strong as humans.

A video showing incredible progress, especially when considering the training/control model. Yet most people in this sub are just negative sheeple. Society says Tesla bad now, and you all listen.

Anytime I see humanoid robot videos, I can't bring myself to feel excited because it only takes a single video of Honda's Asimo to realise we haven't actually made much progress over the past few decades

Because the world is designed around people with 2 legs and 2 arms. You reduce the odds of weird edge cases by making a humanoid bot. Furthermore, with the goal of using a neural net to learn from humans doing the task, how would you train a robot with more arms than humans have? I don't know if Optimus is the the "optimal" (pun intended) solution, but I think it is a solution that seems reasonable and is worth pursuing. I imagine we will end up with a variety of different robot types in the near/mid future.

>trans can makers I spent way too long trying to figure out what a "trans can" is. What a world.

At what time frame? We've had millions of years to get real efficient with our meat and muscle. Batteries, motors, etc aren't going to get there for a long time.

"Pick up that can!"

It can deadlift 150 pounds and carry 45 pounds while walking at 5 mph. And if it’s in a factory, it can stand and work in a single area doing small assembly like phones and other electronics and be plugged in.

Got a source on that first one? also why would a factory ever, EVER use a generalised robot (power wasted on everything but arm movement) over a specialised robot for assembly line tasks?

Esto es una locura

https://builtin.com/robotics/tesla-robot#:~:text=How%20much%20weight%20can%20a,of%205%20miles%20per%20hour.

This is like judging Tesla FSD by looking at autopilot from 7 years ago.

They would use humanoid shape vs specialized shape because some jobs require some amount of troubleshooting. Think of a bin full of widgets that are not organized in a carrier. Optimus needs to pick one out, combine it in the proper orientation, then screw it on. You can’t do that with a purpose built machine with no ai. Or a batch that drops a mold of 100 items, all blow or injection molded at the same time. Optimus has to pick it up and break all the pieces from the mold tree. There are thousands of stupidly tedious jobs that humans don’t want to do that Optimus could do with its humanoid shape and a decent bit of AI.

I want a Zaphod Beeblebrox robot. 3 arms and two heads

I will buy a robot when one can fold and put away laundry. Unless it's a Tesla and Elon's still alive and profiting from it

Almost stirred the pot right off the stove.

Sure, but can they fart with realistic smell effects?

To be quite honest, if the instructions included something like “make sure it does not spill” the generalized model probably would be able to infer it should hold the pot. Similar to how well “make it look visually appealing” works with the Claude model when promoting for frontend code.

Purchase Optimus. Get hit with 40% depreciation after the first step. Cry.

We are the most efficient at finding ways to be lazy.

Except when you bought a Tesla with autopilot 7 years ago you still had a functional car. For 30k, all you're getting is the robot. There is nothing about this robot's functionality that is worth 30k. If this robot was coming in 7 years, then you'd have a point. But I'm fairly sure they're targeting a release date earlier than that, and you're going to need way more functionality than what this video showed if you want anyone other than hardcore Tesla fans and early adopters to buy this thing.

Are you implying it can figure out how to do a task it's never seen done before?

Training upon hundreds of hours of video clips to learn how to perform actions that can then be started via a natural language prompt is not the same as “following prepackaged movements”. Teslas FSD can handle roads it’s never seen before, Tesla bot will likely end up being similar in that regard. The end goal is to be able to prompt it to do any task (such as tighten a bolt or move some part) and based on its knowledge of how to do other actions, like moving a box, it can figure it out on its own.

How do we know the robot is really doing these tasks without human intervention?

Tesla's been at FSD for a damn long time now, and I still don't have the product I was promised years ago. And the amount of unforeseen edge cases associated with driving is nothing compared to what a robot will see when asked to perform daily tasks. Unlike some other people in this thread, I don't think it's an impossible thing to get done. I'm certain that it'll get to the market at some point. But none of what they've shown is impressive in the least. How long has FSD been coming "next year for sure" for? We're going to be waiting years until Optimus gets to the point that some people in this sub think it's at right now. I'm surprised they thought this was meaningful enough to even turn into marketing material. All that to say, that for the place they are at now, yes. These are all prepackaged movements.

Or with some weight to it…

But traditional, stationary, factory robots are just the better solution are they not? They work so much faster by virtue of not needing to move around and being just immensely more powerful than this thing. Sure these would be easier to slot into an existing factory, but then you're talking about direct replacement of human factory workers, hardly a good thing for workers. Whereas the automated factories were never built for humans in the first place, it doesn't replace humans, it simply doesn't add new jobs for humans. Small but important difference. Investing in these instead of planning the next expansion to be a fully automated factory also seems like a poor investment decision.

Optimus seems less capable than other robots I’ve seen. That being said, the rate of advance as been impressive.

Many people will find it hard to understand the significance of handling those tasks, even though it seems still clumsy.

They're drinking the people?!

So how do you envision it? Will you need to buy a vaccum attachement to your Optimus as an add-on or do you need to go out and buy a "human" vaccum, perhaps of a compatible type? What about the lawn? Will you need a push mower? or a ride-on mower? I don't own one of those anymore, no need with how good and consistent my robot is. Cleaning really is the ultimate challenge isn't it? I mean what does "clean the kitchen" even mean? I know many couples struggle with how differently they define that task. And there are so many subtasks it needs to understand, do in order, find the tools for, read / interpret labels to use the right chemicals and dilute the mix properly, so many different ways to do it. Does it also entail doing dishes? What if the dishwasher is full? Where to place the pots if all were used for the meal and you can't find any other pots to put the clean ones with? I seriously think they started in the completely wrong end here. They started with the easy shit, doing one simple task (half-assed at that mind you, look at that sweeping and vaccuming...). The hard stuff is how it understands, divides and conquers typical tasks. How it identifies informational gaps it needs to fill to be able to solve the task. Demo progress on that instead of this youtube techie level stuff.

"the world is designed around people with 2 legs and 2 arms" ... drives off into sunset in Tesla on four wheels

Good point, because most humans live in their anthropocentric box they can't escape from.

Only 30 grand? Sold! 

Sign me up for one that's funny clumsy, train it on Peter Griffin videos falling down the stairs. We'll laugh our nuts off.

I still don’t see any proof of your prepackaged movements claim.

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

And you don't have any proof of your claim either. I'm saying that everything shown in this video is functionally prepackaged. Just like how it was in the FSD video in 2016. Your claim of "you just enter natural language and the robot does it" is years and years ahead of what OP showed. That's like if you came to me in 2016 and said "See? You just enter an address and it goes there!" 9 years later and it's still not true. Saying "oh it just needs more video data and it'll work as advertised" is what people have been saying about FSD for years. How are we falling for the exact same excuse? And if you thought the edge cases that came along with driving on roads was expansive, just wait till you hear about daily life tasks!

Cool I guess. But, I mean, not as impressive for a demo considering Optimus is kind of doing all of the chores really poorly haha. Makes me think of how my robot vacuum still gets stuck on stuff all the time.

Not only am I being automated out of a job, I am being automated out of being a husband.

I ROBOT they told us it was coming 15 years ago.

I’m not sure which chore is tearing off a sheet of paper towel

Or it’s just being remote controlled

I say 10 years before they are main stream

Cool

You scold the bot and they cry

Yeah true it's just gonna keep getting better and better, scary

We teach them everyday how to replace us. Do not get me wrong, this is going to help a lot of people. But I sure feel like what will my Grand kids be doing? Repairing the robots, I guess for a little while? Then What?

I am not buying the first gen.

Yeeeee, try to run Doom Eternal on a mobile device of that time when the iPhone came out, it didn't even have App Store, copy&paste, MMS, front camera, video recording, GPS or even background app refresh. Or rather yet, show me a person running a Roomba before the dude was born. The technology was not even nearly there.

Weeeeell, imagine 2 miniguns appearing out of its shoulders and homing on you...... this is probably the easiest thing to implement out of the whole machine.

That implies that we've legalized automated assault first. Which, ya know... might not be a great idea.

Amazing!!! Definitely justifies the market value!

Well, that's true. But it's more of a legal/ethic problem than technology. I think those can be used for highly secured areas and military bases/police stations I think.

The formfactor (humanoid robot) still doesn't make sense for most situations. It would make more sense to just strap a camera and computer onto a weapon if that's the end goal. That's not currently done because it's very much illegal on all levels for an automated system to inflict harm onto humans.

My opinion is that the first generation will just do repetitive tasks on assembly lines and at distribution centers.

Boston Dynamics

These days, I’m not really impressed by carefully controlled trials, especially under what are basically laboratory conditions. Put them in some random person‘s house and have them start cleaning. Then I’ll be impressed.

Is it? What other costs are associated with it aside from the up-front $30k cost? How much are repairs? How long does the bot last? What sort of energy cost is associated with charging/running it? Can it perform the tasks as quickly and accurately as a human?

It could do 6 hours worth of chorse while you work and sleep though. Which is probably still worth it. And I'd expect it to get faster via updates.

Never let perfect be the enemy of the good

I’m a fan of the Figure bots actually doing real work in the BMW X3 line.

You mean the robot that’s not for sale, still actively being built and programmed? It’s not up to snuff for you yet?

No, you just have to jailbreak your bot with tricky prompting techniques to convince it, just like you do with regular people.

I hope everyone does realize that these things can grab weapons and cause damage. Whether they are trained to or not. Whether they have safety features or not. It is possible at the end of the day.

Hey we don't want to burn their skin.

No chopping block? Bummer.

If it can do most of the house hold stuff? shiet I bet many many will get one. 30k for a permanent housemaid is cheap.

You're trying to reframe an engineering problem as a philosophical problem. When you say "most", that seems to indicate that some people are *not* stuck living in an anthropocentric environment, could you give an example? I literally can't conceive of any human in existence who hasn't had their surroundings altered in some human-favoring way.

These robots are our future guardians, cops, and military. The whole world is gonna turn into Gaza.

Yeah, but lets see it find the bin is full and go sneak it into the neighbors without getting caught.

Why is this video slowed down? Are the robots that slow they have to speed it up?

Look at the people walking in the background. It is sped up. That's why it says it's sped up...

it just goes to show how dumb these are. it doesn't understand what it is actually doing.

Isn’t battery life on these a legitimate concern? Like what’s the battery life on an Optimus?

In what language does full autonomous means sped up?

The other robot will help clean up

Because when our robot overlords take over, I don’t want them looking like general grievous

Hell yeah!   lol all these people keyboard critiquing iterative  innovation

Balance is one of the hardest problems to solve in robotics, and Tesla has absolutely not perfected this (Boston Dynamics is currently the industry leader, and it's still terrible compared to a human). Additionally, they're disallowed to react with harm by law. Period. So, yes. I can confidently say that I could push one of these things over. I could push 30 of them over.

Let’s see that proof

Tesla has benefited from approximately $4.9 billion in government subsidies over the years, which includes grants, tax breaks, and consumer tax credits for electric vehicle purchases… you know what government subsidies are correct

Can think of another use for a robot that has been trained on POV videos

What a load of nonsense! It isn't that difficult to get something to open a cupboard. Stirring the pot, with a spatula, wrong side around, without liquid, not holding the handle... 🚛💩

Also, the devices like vacuum cleaner, toaster, microwave, fridge were built to be used by humans. As robots evolve, devices would also have robot mode.

Bring it on my wife and I are ready! 🤣

Why would I pay $20,000 for a robot that is about as capable as a 14-year-old boy? In fact, I can hire the 14-year-old for a lot less money and he will probably learn faster

If it learns to fold laundry and find alllll the matching socks, it's easily worth $30K.

He really just thought his thought was so clever that everyone else needed to read, consider, and think it. 🤣🤣

My father had to catch the horse and saddle it to ride to school, he remembers the day that electricity was run to the house and they had a single bulb in the kitchen/dining room hooked up. Before that it was candles. They lived in rural Australia, but that's a first world country. He can now talk instantly on his wristwatch to his son on the other side of the planet. Do you think when that first lightbulb was installed, he could have imagined the watch?

Just like the full self driving coming out in 2019

need somethin like this — does it sound way too robotic? anyone think the style's off or needs tweaking?

This is still ridiculously fast compared to where autonomous bots were 10 years ago. Progress on autonomous humanoid robots may be "slow" (as in still below human after years of work), but it's also exponential. And it's being pursued seriously. It's not just sci-fi anymore. It IS going to happen.

Shit. The first announcement was just in late 2021. Come on folks. Chill. Hardware stuff takes longer. Especially when it's a literal entirely brand new product. And you have to make your actuators from scratch because no market product suited your needs even remotely.

Are you serious? Progress over even just the last few years has been intense. 10 years from now will be 3x the progress, and probably exponential growth at that. I'm not saying they won't be doing factory / manufacturing work, but they will certainly get better, too! More importantly, the training methods and technologies will scale and improve!

This is funny, but it's not released or even close to it yet.

"Our tech level is still struggling with robot vacuums." To be fair, the robot vacuum companies haven't exactly been trying to solve generalized AI. The early ones in particular I know for a fact ran REALLY naive space mapping algorithms.

Honda wasn't actually, genuinely pushing on this front until recently. They were very expensive marketing gimmicks. From what I have heard, though, Japan's large elderly population has pushed Honda and others to try and make legitimate progress on this front now. Also, we now have the benefit of enabling technologies. Decades ago, "deep learning" wasn't a real thing. ChatGPT came out only 3 years ago. A shit-ton... I mean literal shit-ton... of advancements in AI, vision, training, etc. have come over the past few years. So much so that it's hard to keep up with, for both hobbyists and professionals.

Only partial agreement with your points. Factories are also incredibly expensive. Specialized equipment, while more efficient, is incredibly expensive. Tens of thousands for things relatively easy to do. Some specialized equipment costing millions or more. This would cost $30,000. And probably receive software and limited hardware update for years, all for a subscription fee (if even that is charged) in order to run analysis and get the latest models. That is the equivalent to a $15 / hr employee, to your point. And eventually they WILL start taking jobs. I knew a guy who got a job at a place where he literally stood on his feet all day putting bottle caps on bottles. Yes, like the oldschool cartoons. The place couldn't afford or didn't yet have installed machinery to do that. The job / market disruptions and displacement issues will have to be dealt with as they come along. These things get good enough, they will eventually replace skilled laborers and tradesmen. Which unfortunately is needed. Have you gotten a quote from a plumber or electrician, lately? They are off the charts. These are scary and uncertain times, but I'm hopeful regardless.

You're kidding me.

Thankfully I already have a vacuum. Would much rather have a robot do the actual vacuuming, though! And mow the lawn while it's at it. And cut up some carrots for dinner. And start the pressure cooker. And take out the dogs. And fold and organize my clothes.

This may be true. Tesla has lied before unfortunately. If the video above is accurate, though, they're building a generalized system that can take voice commands.

To be fair, Tesla did lie in their early FSD video (paint it black). However, if the video is accurate, then the bots will be learning and doing so quickly and soon. Will probably need their own dedicated GPU farms for training, though!

I actually believe for non-dangerous tasks that Optimus should be able to learn and perform quickly and at incredible scale. Self-driving cars actually have a different set of sometimes more difficult problems, oddly enough. I know Tesla Optimus is also hard, but for now, it doesn't have to worry about 80mph rainy traffic-congested road conditions. Would be nice to pair an Optimus as a second set of eyes for your Tesla FSD in the future, though! My personal chauffeur!

Are you serious? This thing could fold your laundry or prep your morning meal in your sleep. Maybe not now, but eventually.

I can understand the tasks. Vacuuming and mowing the lawn has already been done by robots for like 10 years, so we don't need androids for that. That's a waste of android time. But taking out the dogs? What's the point of having dogs if you are not going to be spending time with them? And you can already teach dogs to take themselves out. Why not just do that?

I already personify my teddy bears (i am an adult) and form friendships with them, I am prone to getting attached to inanimate objects, so I can so see myself buying this robot so I can have a robot friend, like that sounds awesome.

you have engineers who probably don't cook teach robots how to cook

My dogs just need to be let outside to use the bathroom sometimes and one of them likes to hop the fence, so they need human supervision. I don't think vacuuming and mowing are waste of android time. They're just one more task I can have it do. That's the point. I don't have to buy a specialized mowing robot. Also, I need something that can trim my lawn lines with a weed whacker. "There's already a robot for that!" Yes... so we can have 1,000 different robots (total cost: probably > $1,000,000,000 in total, especially since a "gather and then wash the dishes" robot doesn't even exist yet.), each specialized for a different task, or we can have one Optimus (total cost: $30,000 - $100,000). I think the latter has immense potential and will revolutionize life and work!

I just got a robot vacuum that mops floors and vacuums incredibly well sub 1k. I highly reccomend it. It took a long time to get here for simple mopping and vacuuming. Maybe 10 years, we will see. A fun ride nonetheless

I'm going tbh mopping and vacuuming are tasks that take me approximately five minutes. I never understood people buying specialized devices just for that. I think that's awesome and still want to know which bot you bought, though :) A humanoid robot that could mop and vacuum, as well as do other things? Potentially entirely arbitrary tasks? I mean THAT is definitely worth my money.

I have a very large home with a dog and two cats, in an with a lot of sand. Walking on the floors barefoot the last few days feels amazing. mova 10 pro ultra

That's really cool! Haha it's curious. My house is very very small. I could never justify such a thing. To be honest one issue would be the space it would take up! Kids might like seeing it move around though

That's only partially right. Robots are designed with legs because the world is designed around people. Multiple arms aren't a hindrance for operating in a human built environment but an advantage. Tracks or wheels operating in a human environment on the other hand can be a hindrance if you have to go up stairs but they are also better in almost any other kind of environment. "how do you train a robot with more arms than humans have?" - That's a cop out excuse for saying you don't want to put in work to develop something new. Look at how much easier it is to just feed YouTube videos into a NN and expect to get perfect operation, no need to code or check. It's cheap and fast, so why try to put in effort or make sure it works. A humanoid robot is a reasonable solution and worth pursuing, but you have to actually work on the solution rather than feed inputs and videos into a NN model while hoping for the best. None of what is shown is market ready material. Edit: Coding one arm, two arms, three arms or more isn't that much more difficult because the code scales and each arm has the same fundamental code for it's operation. Meet the Da Vinci Surgical System as an example, with 4 surgical precision level arms. https://www.intuitive.com/en-us/products-and-services/da-vinci

Well the connected home is something many have been trying to market for quite some time with limited success. It would be logical for the robot to be able to communicate with any device it needs to use without resorting to physical touch. Like take hold of the vacuum and have it turn off and on at command. cooking food and setting timers and such would never require touch. heck very specialized tools if not robots to assist other full sized robots in doing tasks in not redesigning homes to integrate them seamlessly. I am not quite expecting Kryton from Red Dwarf but as long as we avoid creating our own Kaylon. That may be the most difficult part of any integration of robots into society is having people treat them as having value because we all know there will be people who will seek to cause trouble.

Roombas still barely work lol

We already have robots for that, they don't look like people and because of that they're way more efficient.

Broom and dustpan need to be done on the floor

Overstuffed that trash bin. Should have pushed down on it.

I’ve been trying to reach you about your robot’s extended warranty… can’t wait for all those calls.

Or, it will be far simpler to build or modify things like vacuum cleaners to be compatible with humanoid robots, once humanoid robots gain enough critical mass for companies to start designing around them. Far easier to redesign vacuum cleaners, than building a vacuum cleaner with the dexterity and mobility to do all the things a humanoid robot is designed to do. In other words, once you have a great general platform (the humanoid robot), designing compatible accessories is easier

Not for me, thanks. I’ll use the money to go on vacation and actually have a real world experience instead.

You could have one of these robots take care of your house while you're away doing that! I guess you just need more money lol. (So do I.)

I tend to agree. These examples are all being done in a laboratory environment. The real world has a lot more complexity and chaos and edge cases. My own guess is Optimus robots aren’t in homes for a 7-10 years.

If only I could get it to empty my Roomba and clear the hair from the brushes

But can it weld though? I think it has soft hands 🙌

SOYLENT IS NOT PEOPLE, PEOPLE!

Genuinely good idea

I would if it will pretend to love me

Exactly. The floors are clear. The table tops are clear. There's very very limited other things going on in its reference frame that it has to deal with. Moving a spoon around in a pot is way different than stirring during cooking and getting a reasonable result. Moving a vacuum around on the floor is way different than vacuuming a floor and actually cleaning it. Even my sub teenager doing a half-assed job is better than a robot just moving a vacuum back and forth across the bare floor. For all of Tesla's FSD and Optimus chatter there is actually very little intelligence going on here, artificial or otherwise.

You are way, way over estimating the capabilities of a robot.

Every single one of those robots was tethered to a computer and power... Autonomous my ass. I might be impressed if it walked between the stations doing the tasks without anything but vocal commands and no tether

lol what? How?

Untethered has been demonstrated several times, by this company and others. Battery and compact computing needs have been good enough for this for years. Tethers are not needed outside of a development environment. The only questions that remain are if modern AI software can pull this off reliably and safely, and if it can be done at a cost that's affordable for enough people.

Then why do 100% of the videos have a tether? If untethered exists they should show it... The 9 years of "Full" Self Driving means one should have a reasonable level of skepticism. As an aerospace engineer, I know how much battery capacity and voltage is needed to run that robot and this thing ain't running more than an hour MAX unless it weighs 400 lbs or more. I bet this robot passes out after 30 minutes untethered.

You haven't seen many videos of this... Most don't have a tether. [This one is from a year ago. ](https://youtu.be/DrNcXgoFv20) There are many others, but I won't do all your research for you. Supposedly, Optimus will be kitted with a 2.3kwh battery. If it consumes 500 watts constantly (this seems excessive unless it's walking constantly) then it would last 4.6 hours between charges. As an "aerospace engineer" I'm perplexed that you think a modern robot with efficient electronics would not last more than 30 minutes. As a mere aerospace electronics technician, even I know better than that.

Because the robots have to do work. Just walking around is one thing. Doing work... vacuuming, cooking, sweeping whatever takes effort. Those servo motors take power. The electronics are small but powering servo motors big enough to move significant mass similar to the capabilities of a human aren't remotely nothing even if really efficient. And with the gear train of multiple axis of motion over multiple joints and distances and maintaining balance while doing it all is not as "gosh that's easy" as you seem to imply. Look at any power bank with capacity to run an 80 kg appliance for a while and tell me how big it needs to be. That robot is skinny. It has multiple motors to drive all that motion and joints that take up space.. where's the big battery? How many squats can Optimus do on a charge? How many lifting 15 kilos? Or is it only good for stirring a pot or lifting a paper filled trash bag?

My math for lifting a 20kg weight suggests a power draw of 315W (I estimated 2 seconds to lift, 1 meter lift, and 25% total powertrain efficiency). It is broadly accepted that it will draw 500W while walking. So, if there was a complex task that involved both walking and constantly moving a 20kg object, then it can be assumed there would be a peak load of 815W. Even if peak were constant, you'd still get 2.8 hours from a 2.3kwh battery.

and 50% of the robots in that video are tethered and the untethered on had to plug in.

You've gone from 100% of videos show them tethered to 50% are tethered in one video. Your goal posts are shifting rapidly. If you just do a tiny bit of research you'll find loads of videos of modern humanoid robots operating and doing complex tasks untethered. Then just do a little more research and you'll find that a 2kwh battery is totally feasible for this setup and the actuators needed could run with that power for a couple hours minimum. The parts you seem to be skeptical about are the easy parts that have been figured out for years. There are legitimate reasons to be skeptical about the technology, but you don't seem to be aware of any of those. A rudimentary understanding of ohms law and the modern state of batteries and power electronics answers all of the questions you seem to have.

also 2 times speed to make it look fast.

they aren't autonomous, a guy behing the trash bot was doing suspicious movements, kinda like taking out trash.

so, it went from uselessly bad to uselessly bad?

That was a lot of fan fiction….They made them human shaped so we feel more comfortable being around them.

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