5-Star Safety Rating | Cybertruck

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I’m sure this will be the talk of Reddit. /s

still not buying.

Honestly that's crazy didn't think it was going to get a five star. How about pedestrians? As much as a Tesla fan I am it is crazy that they pull it it off here. But yet we can't get good headlights cuz the regulation for them suck.

And that's fine. If everyone have the same taste in cars we would all be driving the same car. Better that we have diversity.

Safe for the people _inside_ the vehicle. Not sure if safety ratings account for pedestrian safety

I don't believe it does like it does for Europe.

Plenty of less safe cars or trucks out there for you and your family! I don;t think I will buy one either. Mostly because I dont need a truck

Need that laugh today, thank you.

It killed the Duolingo owl. Just sayin'

Funny because they actually mention that in the video. I mean you kind of have to watch it.

Idk it did look a lot cooler in the 60s and earlier when every car had style

I mean it's still not in the reasonable price range for what it does and how it looks.

“What about pedestrians” is all they’ve got now. As if getting hit by any other truck is safer.

I can’t think of anything more important

Cybertruck would be a lot cheaper, lighter, safer, more sustainable, more profitable and legal had they simply made it out of regular aluminium like every other car instead of steel. Completely unnecessary design choice for the sake of it being "apocalypse proof" Edit: I clarify they're not made from aluminium, I meant regular steel. Sorry about that haha

still looks like 💩

You probably did not watch the video if your takeaway from this thread is that another material choice would make it safer.

Sometimes I wonder if these are all just chatbots, it's hard to believe someone can write something as bombastically incorrect as they just did, that doesn't even really relate to the video. It's that or blind hate.

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Considering the hood on a cyber truck is about 20 inches shorter than the hood on a Silverado. I’d say there’s a good case. It could be the safest truck on the road.

The fact that Tesla is 5-star across the board for every vehicle is absolutely amazing and deserves some respect. I’m curious on how my f150 lightning got 4 stars for safety when it comes to frontal crash though. It looked very similar to this.

US does not have ped safety metrics, nevertheless, the CT is much safer for peds than tall, flat faced vehicles (all other trucks) because it has a low, slanted nose.

Every other car is made of aluminum? Do you understand that aluminum is incredibly rare in the auto world? Ford does some panels in it with their F150, and Tesla makes most of their products with Al - but they are the exception. The industry standard is steel stamped panels. Aluminum is actually much more expensive for panels than steel - even the special SS alloy used here.

Why are you comparing apples to oranges - specifically one of the smallest cars on the market vs a mid-largish pickup? Also, IIHS will test this and will also give it exemplary results.

Are your feelings hurt that it performed well?

guess Nerf needs to make a truck

* ~~Tesla will never make it~~ * ~~People will never buy it~~ * ~~There is no chance that it is safe~~ I'm not sure where people will move the goal post to next, but I hope that someday they get the hint that it is okay to dislike something for your own reasons and still move on with your day.

Yes very much so, thank you for checking in.

I did, it doesn't change my mind that it's somehow anyway safer than every other pickup, sure passengers would be okay in a crash but pedestrians are certainly dead, look at the sharp corners and edges. It's illegal to drive it in Europe for this reason. NHTSA and euro NCAP have completely different criteria with NCAP being stricter and safer overall. Had it not been made from cold steel they wouldn't have had this issue. Every edge and corner on the truck is a knife blade

So in conclusion, buy the Cybertruck.

Hur dur okay

Redditors said NHTSA is corrupted now. They won’t check that this test was done when Biden was president tho lmao

Headlights? Like the blinding LED lights? Is that what you're talking about? They have the first matrix dot headlights that modifies the beam to switch off portions for on-coming vehicles.

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People in small cars obviously want to feel just as safe as people in SUVs and pickups. A lot of American pickups are banned in Europe simply because they would annihilate them. Crash compatability is used to determine how safe both vehicles would be in a head on collision

Europe’s ban is about regs, not proof it’s a ‘knife blade.’ Euro NCAP prioritizes pedestrians, NHTSA doesn’t—different goals. I hate to break it to you, but if you’re hit by any truck with enough force for the Cybertruck’s sharp corners to come into play, you’re likely dead regardless—shape won’t save you from mass and momentum.

Name a truck you're safe getting hit by? Any truck including a lightweight truck hitting a soft fleshy body is going to kill or extremely maim someone.

You're right I was completely wrong with that lol, but my point still stands. Cold rolled steel if much more difficult and expensive to work with than what cars are typically made out of and they could've avoided all that had they just built it like every other car

Tesla's production process is not particularly complicated and it's not particularly expensive compared to stamped panels because of its simplicity. It's very much a selling point for the vehicle. As someone who has dented their Rivian with a slight bump (fixed by PDR thank jove), I'm jealous of the robust CT. It's also part of what shocks people and makes them hate it (the angularity), but that's precisely why I like and value it as something very unique in the market.

Fair enough. Tesla has a long history of acing all crash tests and setting new bars. There is zero reason to believe they won't kill it on the IIHS test as well. There are a huge number of mainstream companies with absolutely terrible NHTSA ratings (Jeep, RAM being particularly egregious but GM also shite).

I checked, and you checked, so it seems like you're just making shit up to fit some sort of narrative you have about reddit.

Why are you implying that the Nissan Versa isn’t a safe car while saying that the IIHS test is a more appropriate rating? https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/nissan/versa-4-door-sedan/2024

People hate the overall shape of the cybertruck but I like it, it's cool and futuristic. But it's it really worth going through all the effort just so you don't have to worry about dents or bullets according to tesla? I don't see it as being a selling point and more as just a gimmick really. If the prototype was made bullet proof for a stunt and the actual one wasn't then that would be fine but they committed to it so much it's worked them into corners (literally). When was the last time you heard someone's truck rusting or they cut their finger on the door? Also the panel gaps are horrendous. At least it's easy to put vinyl wraps on it in the end

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There are youtube vids describing the process in some detail. How it "looks" its much of a factor, there are a ton of sensors that determine how safe the occupants are after the crash.

I mean…. People aren’t really buying it now. Sales are down significantly.

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It’s the same with NHTSA where ratings are only comparable within the same class. > Side crash rating results can be compared across all classes because all vehicles are hit with the same force by the same moving barrier or pole. >Rollover ratings can also be compared across all classes. >Frontal crash rating results can only be compared to other vehicles in the same class and whose weight is plus or minus 250 pounds of the vehicle being rated. This is because a frontal crash rating into a fixed barrier represents a crash between two vehicles of the same weight. https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings The 2025 versa doesn’t show an updated side test. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/Nissan/versa-4-door-sedan/2025

Took me less than ten seconds to find this. Top comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/gX5Pp3UMHB And the third highest comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/lK7aUFnR4W

It’s the best selling pickup EV - so I’m not sure what you mean no one is buying it.

"Random person on the internet says something everyone else also must believe that!!!!!"

Not really, but ok

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Cybertruck scored only 4 stars for the passenger in the frontal crash test result. The passenger doesn't even need to contend with a steering wheel and column. (Frontal is considered the easiest crash test to ace with 5 stars compared to small overlap crash test, roof crush, etc.) Until now, Tesla had a perfect 5 stars across all cars in all major crash test results (excluding stupid shit like the child seat latch ratings). The Cybertruck ended that trend. Looked at the data and it seems the passenger suffered a higher head injury criterion and neck compression compared to the driver: ii TR-P44392-01-NC TECHNICAL REPORT DOCUMENTATION PAGE Head Injury Criteria (HIC 15 ) 700 **180.893** 700 ***242.522*** Neck Compression N 4000 **125.744** 2520 ***287.139***

They’re still sending me bribes to buy a foundation model. I think it isn’t flying off the shelves.

Honestly good for y'all Americans no doubt the safest car on the road for occupants and the safest truck for pedestrians. Just don't bring this shit overseas, no one ain't gonna buy it cause it sucks as a truck and Europeans, Asians, Australians drive reasonable vehicles.

I have not forgotten all the idiots here claiming this would just be a death machine with no crumple zones

That's a pretty low bar

I mean, looking at its poor as shit sales performance in oversized truck country, and its lack of markets in most countries it doesn't look too good not gonna lie.

Nice broad generalization about 2/3 of Earth's population

People aren’t buying electric pickups in general - it’s not a big market. Tesla is leading In that small market regardless. That’s an absolute W for Tesla and shows that the truck is actually a success.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/23/tesla-cybertruck-pushes-past-ford-mach-e-to-become-third-best-selling-ev-in-america/

Have you seen the Munroe video of its production line? It's really not that difficult to make. It's a roll of stainless, they stamp it, and a unique press shapes it with air (sort of) into the final shape. The sharp edges? Those are gone in recent production. The gaps are pretty good too (for evidence, see Out of Spec Detailing's build quality analysis from last month). I've seen the production line in person due to my job, and it's really cool and continually changing. I think the biggest fail of the CT is the 4680 cell, but that too will soon see refinement.

That's literally the market it's in though....the only bar lmao

It's in the general vehicle market. Model Y is one of the best selling cars in the world. EV sales need to be compared to the broad market to decide if they're successful.

The truck market (all trucks) is huge in the US. This vehicle is only a success if it can sell meaningful numbers in that market. I say this as a fan of the cybertruck, I'm not a hater.

Was Tesla’s goal to be at the top of a dismal market? If so, I guess it’s a W. But I somehow doubt that was their goal.

Best selling pickup… by <1,000 units. I doubt they’ll keep the lead into 2025.

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I see F150s and RAMs here everyday so I'd go easy on those 'Europeans drive reasonable vehicles' statements. Also the CT is bound to be safer for pedestrians thanks to its lower and sloped hood.

As someone who has lived on everyone of those continents, yes I think I can. China and India alone (as only workmen use trucks for actual truck stuff in those countries) would be your 1/2

When you have 3 hyper expensive vehicles it ain't a high bar and again, those are American stats

An absolute W? They had ~2M reservations, I was among those. They've converted only 2.5% of those to sales, and they're making more cars than they're selling which does not bode exceptionally well for them. It's a very specific W but they're nowhere near hitting their goals.

Did you even read the article? That article is from when the Cybertruck hit the 3rd highest selling EV, not just truck. It ended as the 5th highest selling EV in America in 2024.

Yes keep doubling down on your ridiculous take

Maybe safe for the driver maybe not pedestrians? 😁

Given I'm not from the US I'm not that aware of the US crash ratings, but what are the child seat latch ratings? For me that doesn't sound like stupid shit but important shit to keep your kids safe?

The third highest selling EV against what? The model 3 and Y? Chinese automotives are stigmatised to shit in America, over here in Australia Tesla accounts for around 1/3 of EV sales, yet has lost over 17% in YOY sales against new models like the SEAL since 2023 - (https://www.forbes.com.au/life/cars/ranked-australias-10-best-selling-ev-cars-in-2024/) - so if the cybertruck is struggling with a Car centric - truck centric country, hows it gonna fair in ped first countries like the Netherlands?

Yes the ICE truck market. Look at people who mostly drive trucks and try to convince them an EV is better. Good luck.

Are you stick in 2016? Is anyone still doubting Tesla in general? I don't think so, except for a few delusional people. The real problem of Tesla, ignoring the elephant in the room, is stagnation. The existing models haven't technologically evolved much in the last couple of years. We've only seen some luke-warm refreshes lately. At this point, the competition is overtaking Tesla, both technologically and in sales as well.

Last year it sold well. But after plowing through the reservation list, there just isn’t a large pool of buyers left. This is why Tesla is pushing to sell the cybertruck in China. Fresh market, fresh pool of buyers.

It’s a small market man. How many people are in the market for a $80k truck, let alone an $80k EV truck.

This is not a "goalpost", this is a completely legitimate concern. Those huge trucks are bad for pedestrians overall, but Cybertruck with its large solid steel panels and sharp edges is especially dangerous. But yeah, not really a Cybertruck specific issue.

I've only seen it once irl when it was doing the tour in Europe and to me the panel gaps were pretty bad, especially around the tailgate but that was probably an earlier production build. Still disappointing how people have to wait a long time for teslas to reach an acceptable level of build quality before considering to buy one, like buying any modern videogame on launch. Even so, it's still very expensive and sadly undelivers in some areas that it was promised compared to other pickups especially with range. So far the biggest selling point is that it's fast, like really fast, which is cool but makes no sense if it's meant to be a utility vehicle. You want it to do a job well, not quickly haha

I can think of no safer car than one that is sitting in a dealership while the recalls get sorted out.

Let me know when there's proof. I'm happy to believe it if is tested and confirmed by an authority like the Euro NCAP, but most Redditors didn't even think it would have a crumple zone.

RIP camera at 2:28 :'(

Not sure what he is exactly saying. LATCH is a standardized attachment point system for child car seats. I don’t know if they are saying Tesla was dinged for not having LATCH or if the mounts did not hold up to spec.

Well to be fair, it's just a regular unibody car/city type SUV design now. Back when they said the body would be structural, which obviously didn't happen, I could see people being right in thinking that.

It's a subjective rating on the LATCH system's 'ease of use': "\[NHTSA\] evaluate the ease of use of the lower anchors of the LATCH system" It's not a crash test, just some person/team's subjective opinion. I think any parent would want to evaluate the LATCH usage for themselves depending on their own child seat choice and preferences. And once you own a car, it seems like you would get pretty familiar with its LATCH usage, right? Anyways, the point: Tesla models generally scored perfectly across the board (except for these subjective tests) until Cybertruck. I would say 4 stars is a failing safety result these days with no excuses. It's the easiest moving crash test to ace, with even safety losers like Toyota often getting 5 stars (the same company that failed the small overlap test with the RAV4, and their fix was to only put small overlap crash protection on \*one side\* of the RAV4 to save a few bucks of steel). I think Tesla can and should aim higher with the Cybertruck. These are the easy tests, except the pole test. We haven't even seen the actual hard test results yet (IIHS small overlap, roof crush, moderate overlap, and truly tough D-CAR tests like: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw1jdkYW6Yo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw1jdkYW6Yo) Spoiler: only like 4 cars ace the test, and it's not the $230,0000 Mercedes Maybach or G-wagon. There is a Model 3 in the D-CAR test, as well.

Cybertruck only got 4 stars for passenger frontal: [https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2024/TESLA/CYBERTRUCK/PU%25252FCC/AWD](https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2024/TESLA/CYBERTRUCK/PU%25252FCC/AWD) It was a good run for Tesla while it lasted.

People are still convinced it's a death trap today.

Are you referring to Chinese EVs when you state competition is overtaking Tesla in sales?

Misinformation is hard to stamp out once it takes hold.

I've looked it up now, it's called ISOFIX here in the UK.

Oh interesting, basically the ease of adding or removing the car seat from the car itself? That is in part on the car seat itself as well surely? I've had car seats which are easy to remove from the ISOFIX (LATCH's name here in the UK) and some which are more difficult because their release button is annoying. I agree with your overall point that they should be aiming for 5* everywhere. Thanks for sharing!

>NHTSA sets their schedule. We just oblige. Internally we’ve known it was 5 star from the beginning but we thought it best you hear it from the authorities — Lars. [https://x.com/larsmoravy/status/1892343952725905689](https://x.com/larsmoravy/status/1892343952725905689)

A big part of it is if the LATCH points are permanently exposed or not. (In some cars you can see them sticking out from the seatback as a covered plastic recepticle.) This one is controversial because it can make the seats less comfortable for larger kids and adults. But yeah the Tesla ones are hidden but marked on the seats. Their score was dinged for that, which seems a little unfortunate.

I’d agree that it likely makes it a little harder to put the seat in, but it’s silly to ding a safety score because of it.

There's always an oppositional movement against Tesla. Just get use to it and ignore them.

careful, he knows more than you.

That was a very early one. Later ones are much better. Here's one from a couple months ago: [https://youtu.be/SIN86qTzSlQ?si=7Fi0qwapntx3aUg0](https://youtu.be/SIN86qTzSlQ?si=7Fi0qwapntx3aUg0) Bad news is that all modern autos have teething problems around start of production. It's been that way for a long time. I wouldn't call it expensive in non-foundation form for an AWD pickup. It's weirdly more efficient than my Rivian R1T, despite being larger - and has similar or better range on a smaller battery. Utility? It has a 6 foot lockable bed, a giant frunk, and loads of space inside. People try to pretend that it's not, but it really is great. I prefer my Rivian's gear tunnel because of how the climate control reaches it, but the CT has better bed space, particularly in terms of vertical volume. No one likes their cargo being exposed to the wind/elements, and the CT's retractable and DEEP tonneau is awesome (also better than my janky, slow Rivian one).

Perhaps the language they used tricked you. They did not say it is safer for pedestrians. They said it was "safer for other road users" meaning vehicles. They are specifically NOT talking about how it might affect pedestrians, and this testing has nothing to do with the lethality of the vehicle hitting pedestrians.

You are wiser than I

Still, its not a desireable vehicle

\> body would be structural That is what unibody means, as opposed to body on structural underframe. The structure is just optimised for achieving certain goals in certain zones by varying the material thickness and second moment of area.

Sorry, I meant to say the skin (exoskeleton) would be structural. They completely abandoned that immediately after announcing it, but that is where the crumple zone concerns came up from. Now it's basically just a large model X/S in design, with stainless steel panels for no reason other than aesthetics.

Why wouldn't you? Pedestrian safety is one of the reasons the new usps van is so ugly.

Cost is a big factor, $80,000 starting price is a no-go for many.

LMAO hey now my boyfriend worked long and hard designing those platypus looking things you leave them alone! 😂😭

I have not forgotten all the idiots here claiming it’d have an exoskeleton

Folks don't want swasti-kkkars ✅

plus they have to be stupid enough to want a cybertruck over any other option

Well it’s quite literally the best option so

😂

Is pedestrian safety rating a thing in the US?

This is the entire problem with modern car safety attitudes in the US. Everyone fixates on how giant pickups and SUVs are "safe", but don't consider the safety of pedestrians and the other car at all. Pedestrian deaths are way up in recent times

As an engineer, just looking at the impacts, I would say it's rigged. They even disabled the knee airbags on purpose when questioned buy the NHTSA about why they didn't deploy. This isn't about protecting the passengers, it is about rigging the results. So the person suffers catastrophic leg injuries, the dummy survived the HIC (head injury criteria) part of the test! (that's Elon) People in the know, with actual knowledge of physics look at this and laugh. All the poor gullible people trusting the system to give them actual facts. The knee airbags are for what then? Probably so it passes some other test.