Saw the Cybercab in person today. Looks very nice and crazy to see in person. Couldn’t sit inside but here’s a close up video! Tesla rep said there are only 20 of them. Future will be nuts!
People have been posting these almost every week since they first showed up in showrooms... These posts should belong in r/TelsaLounge now.
Are those hubcaps the most energy efficient?
Why are there only two seats?
Sorry daddy
10 years from now this will still be a pipe dream
99% of cab rides are one or two people.
And why do they look so uncomfortable?
price/durability
Everyone said the same thing about the CyberTruck…
Looking forward to this launching, but not a fan of the color.
Those are two distinctly different things. Cmon. And is anyone heralding Cybertruck as success?
Most taxi rides don't have more than 2 passengers. For more seats I guess you'd have to call a Model Y? Actually that would explain why the Model Y refresh is getting a similar looking light bar and rear styling.
Yes they are different things as I don’t think they can release the CyberTruck again lol. Also don’t try to change your argument to if it is a ‘success’ or not. Just take the L.
Machine washable
They didn't really deliver on most of the announced specs and features I wanted... But it is very triangle, and I like that.
Particularly effective in the Colosseum
Imagine defeating the point of removing the driver..... and not FREEING space for another passenger
How do these look “uncomfortable” exactly?
I just can't get past the painted wheel sidewalls.
Looks comfortable to me
To be fair there is a big difference by delivering a truck that is, beneath the aesthetics and noise, simply a competitor to the F150 Lightning or the Rivian, and literally steering-wheeless autonomous cabs. One is a truck that looks funny. The other just hasn’t been done before. I hope they pull it off, but every time FSD 13 ping pings between lanes on the highway for no reason I get slightly less hopeful that it will be soon.
They should just put a steering wheel and a back window and sell this as a long range lightweight coupe.. looks cool, but I imagine people are going to wreck the interior.
They should have used this design on a Prius competitor instead. A hyper efficient EV with 4 doors slotted below the Model 3. This could have been their golden goose. But no let's make a taxi but weird and with unproven technology. That'll make them money.....
So dumb, should be a Uber/Lyft carpool if it had 4 seats, offer cheap rides that would beat since they don't offer carpool anymore
Autonomous cabs like Waymo already exist. At the pace FSD is improving, it’ll easily be ready before CyberCab’s release.
Where is my goddamn cup holder?
Imagine not understanding that the vast majority of rides only have 1-2 passengers and therefore a 2-seater robotaxi would be able to handle the vast majority of rides and offer a lower cost than a 4-seater. For the minority of rides with more than 2 people, it would send a Model 3 or Model Y.
Cybertruck is the best-selling electric pickup truck. So yeah, in its class it's absolutely a success.
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They already have cars with 4 seats. This is meant to serve the vast majority of rides, which have 1-2 passengers. It would be more expensive and more redundant if it was a 4-seater.
Agreed. I think the design in general is very good for a small car like this, but I don't think I like the matte gold.
Of course, because nobody ever goes anywhere with an additional 2 people, and don't even try and kid yourself, this thing will cost so much it's absurd, firstly, it's a Tesla, you lose price competition there, second, why even bother with making a brand new 2 seater if you already designed the model 3 and Y, more cost
Idk any EVs that goes 500 miles for 70k, so according to you all EVs are ‘shit boxes’. Great logic.
Century City mall, so many good dinner spots!
Hey fun fact. Tires were bright white when they were first used. Then scientists discovered that adding carbon black to the white rubber stopped UV damage from the sun. And now tires are black.
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Dunno what you're talking about, I improved the seals a little and it functions perfectly as a boat
God just put a wheel and pedals and it’ll sell like hot cakes. Add a robotaxi version later.
Century City?
The doors are never actually open like this, right? It would be SUCH an inconvenience and severely limit the drop off and pickup spots
Buddy, this is a purpose-built robotaxi. It's not meant to be a traditional car that you buy and haul around your family and friends. Tesla already has cars for that. The vast majority of taxi rides have 1-2 passengers, so this would serve all those rides cheaper than a traditional 5-seater car ever could. The minority of rides that have more than 2 passengers would be served by Model 3 and Model Y. They have all the bases covered. Model 3 and Model Y are already very cheap as far as electric cars go, and this will be even cheaper. They're targeting $30k for it. For reference, Model 3 is around $40k. This will be a smaller and cheaper car with fewer bells and whistles, purposefully designed to offer very cheap robotaxi rides. The reason they bothered making it is because it can be significantly cheaper than a Model 3 or Model Y ever could be. Obviously.
Because if there's anything Tesla is good at, it's targeting prices, hits the bullseye like it's aiming in the dark on the moon
Elon better tell us what the three shells are for.
They pulled a reverse Michael Jackson on them tires
The **average vehicle occupancy is 1.4 passengers per ride** [https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/42496/dot\_42496\_DS1.pdf](https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/42496/dot_42496_DS1.pdf)
The model y is their golden goose. Prius sales are nothing compared to the rav4. People want crossovers.
And also about the semi, model y, 3, x, s, and original roadster.
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Definitely going to happen if these hit production before FSD is good enough. But they are trying to keep that plan on the down low because many model 3 buyers would wait for it.
And look at that piece of shit that came out. Just saying, because it’s released doesn’t mean it’s gonna get used
So basically it’s the new roadster…
Designing a car for driving is a whole lot more than ‘add a wheel to it’. CyberCab was designed from the ground up without any manual driving considerations other than by a game controller. There’s no way to add manual driving later on and it’d make zero economic sense given the utilization rate, price targets and volumes they are targeting.
Boo hoo, it’s good enough. Given inflation since the announcement, continuing price cuts, a single motor option and future range extender option - CT is more than good enough. Also CT is perfectly competitive in the electric truck segment. In fact it’s leading it in less than a year of being out.
Best selling electric truck right now soo..
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They are generally good at that, yes. All of their cars so far hit their target prices within 2 years of the start of production. It's like you somehow think this would be more expensive than a Model 3 lol. Model 3 is already a cheap EV, and this will be even cheaper to produce. It's smaller and won't have as many features. So obviously it'll be cheaper. Just like Model 3 was significantly cheaper than Model S. They just keep moving down the cost ladder. This is the next step.
Bro is that century city Westfield mall la?
Maybe in the past but not anymore when all signals are becoming/have become electronic. If you can use a game controller you can install a wheel and pedals to replicate it.
Why can’t we have this as the 25k car…
It’s not irl since I’m still looking through a screen heh
I mean I think that the launch went quite successfully. There were a few bad things that were fixed but I can't think of anything that would make it an unsuccessful launch
I think they're specifically made to be like that because they could actually fit in more tight spaces as they don't open as wide (they also look cool)
How will they know if a passenger got sick after a night of partying? I mean i look before i get inside an Uber but there seems to be a lot of things that can happen that Tesla customer service can’t handle. Ive helped friends get in touch with Uber drivers cause they left items in the car. It sucked but not as much as getting what I needed from Tesla
Please take Roadster finally serious
Cybertruck is steer by wire, so they got that flexibility figured out. (and EVs are by their nature throttle by wire already)
Its a cab.... having 2 seats in a cab is stupid.
You lost more than half of potential family customers by making it a 2 seater. A nuclear family is atleast 3 persons
Not when we have "everything by wire".
Brooooo this just is a model 3 where someone took an axe too. Ok maybe a bit more, but this is not a totally new vehicle designed from the ground up. This is a pump the stock exercise.
Sandy Monroe has been saying this for months.
Yeah.... this isn't a mechanical vehicle bro, a steering wheel is just a fancy type of game controller.
Considering the **average vehicle occupancy is 1.4 passengers per ride**, having more than 2 seats is stupid. Tesla obviously knows that as well, but it appears you still have a hard time grasping averages and efficiencies. Apparently, you would waste away your venture by disregarding statistics. Let me guess, you are one of those people that drive around a full size dually truck as a daily driver never towing anything, but have it just in case?
Dude those seats look cheaper than the seats in the mode 3/y, which means they will fall apart within 3 months
I don't even know where to begin with the flaws in what you think is logic. First you link a very specific average from one specific place to argue a cab should only have 2 seats losing out on every ride that has anything above the average. But EVEN if 20% of rides were 3-4 people you would lose out on 20% of all rides. I don't know what kind of Elon Musk worship you have going on, but i have been a cab myself and i 100% promise you its a LOT higher than 20% and comparing 2 extra seats to driving a dually is just stupid beyond belief.
Those seats could use more lumbar support.
You know I didn’t write the study I linked... If you think it’s flawed or wrong, you’d need to provide a study or data that actually disproves it. Instead, you’ve only shared your personal experience, which isn’t the same as actual evidence, in fact you haven't linked any studies at all and have only provided anecdotal claims... On top of that, Tesla, a multi-billion-dollar company, also decided to design their cab with only two seats. That wasn’t a random choice, it’s based on extensive research. If they concluded two seats make the most sense, it’s hard to argue otherwise without you providing any data whatsoever. Further, it's like you didn't even think there might be more than one cab available, and that people will still live their life to the same age if they can't share a ride in the same cab... You claim a lot more than 20% of rides have 3-4 passengers, but again, you haven’t provided any evidence to back that up. All you’ve offered is your opinion. Meanwhile, I provided a study that supports my argument. So, without data on your side, it kind of looks like you’re the one that's stupid...
There are two in the center console. One for each passenger.
It's been at the Petersen Automotive Museum and a handful of Tesla service centers for few weeks now. Lots of people seeing it for the first time.
again. The study you linked is for one specific place. I don't know how you don't get that the average in one place is going to be different than other places. And i don't think you realize the amount of dumb Choices Tesla has made because of Elon. A lot of smart choices get made by smart people then he walks in and says "i want it like this" I can't believe i am actually arguing with someone who thinks cabs should have two seats instead of 4. its like the Twilight zone. The standard amount of seats in a cab has been 4+ since cabs have existed, but sure you must be right.
Also easier to access and clean.
Again, I provided a link to a study and you've provided fucking jack shit. All you've provided is an opinion, unless you can provide a study disproving this one then it stands unchallenged... I can't believe I'm actually arguing with someone who thinks they're smarter than a multi-billion dollar company. I can't believe somebody would get this upset over a cab having two seats, it really is like the Twilight zone isn't it? The standard cab also wasn't specifically designed from the ground up to be a cab now was it? It wasn't designed anticipating the same number of available taxis as they are now was it? If you want everything to remain the same and don't like when the mold is broken, I don't think a Tesla sub is right for you... I would love for you to provide something more than anecdotal claims. Regardless, it really doesn't matter what you say since Tesla is going to do what they want, and I think most people trust Tesla more than they do you.
Who would actually purchase one?
My take on it is that 1) yellow is the classic taxi color, and 2) gold is like yellow but better. That is, I think it is part of the branding of it as a replacement/upgrade of taxis. Having said that, I'm not particularly fond of this version of gold. A brighter, more yellowish tone would appeal to me more. But I also don't think glossy (i.e. more realistically gold) would go over well since glossy = too much glare.
It \*is\* a regular cyber car, just not one where you can drive it. You don't have to put it on the taxi network.
Describe your usual cab ride? I'm guessing it's you plus driver.
Tesla already makes cars with more seats. Buy one of those.
Don't be silly. Everyone knows how to use the three shells.
Why sell a ride for four people when you can sell two rides for four people?
Tesla is making a van with more seats. Also it's one transport solution it doesn't need to be for everyones usages. There are other transport providers too. It's a pretty decent ride for three majority of cab needs.
No one. They will be sold by the dozen.
To be fair, we don’t actually know that. I get why people would believe it’s possible with sFSD having acceptable performance sometimes. Tesla is taking a completely different approach with going for a big bang from a driver assistance system to an autonomous car instead of a more evolutionary approach with the giving the autonomous system a mote broaden scope step by step. The truth is however that the path Tesla is taking with trying to promote supervised driving to autonomous driving can prove to be anything between revolutionary and the biggest misjudgement ever. Personally I don’t know which one is true and I both understand the people that believe and the people that don’t. Time will tell.
Cleaning is half of the design effort for this car. From wide opening doors and flat seats to detecting occupant actions to automated cleaning and charging.
Of course no other car manufacturer makes cars with 2, 4 and 6 seats. They just make 4 seaters.
And proper seats with side support. Not these economy class airplane ones.
Waymo isn’t vision only though right?
so what's next? cybermen? 
Slap a steering wheel to that and a rear window and you got yourself a model 2. In fact, I truly believe that was the original intention until Elon said “I got an idea….”
Spray paint Waymo’s camera black and see if it can drive on Lidar or radar alone… it cannot. Vision is a requirement. Lidar and radar are optional and doesn’t improve safety because they cannot independently drives the vehicle without vision to confirm what the vehicle is seeing.
In your hands drinking it
FSD is not going to drive like a typically Taxi or Uber drivers where they are “racing” to drop you off so they can get to the next customer faster to earn more money. It will be a smooth ride with minimum sideway g-force so you don’t need lumber to stay in your seat. Besides it is designed flat on purpose to make cleaning easier using robot (see the We Robot event video) and easier for both passengers to slide in from either door.
Response was about selling as a light weight coupe, not about the original taxi concept.
FSD is not going to drive like a typically Taxi or Uber drivers where they are “racing” to drop you off so they can get to the next customer faster to earn more money. It is a smooth ride with minimum sideway g-force so you don’t need lumber to stay in your seat. Besides it is designed flat on purpose to make cleaning easier using robot (see the We Robot event video) and easier for both passengers to slide in from either door.
The point of this 2 seater design is its much cheaper to produce.
If a rider needs more than 2 seats than a model 3 or model Y will accept the ride instead. Why is this so difficult for people to think of?
At least they provide one study. You haven't provide anything other than anecdotal experience. Beside tesla already have 4+ seater model.
Yes, FSD is notoriously smooth and gentle
so many Tesla salespeople on this sub.
The cheap build cost won't be due to the 2 seats, more likely the corner cutting in the qc and design oversights
Elon is daddy.
Yes its due to the 2 seat. It was specifically design to be cost optimized.
All? Please, the cybertruck is moving trash, the semi truck still doesn't even exist despite people having ordered it from Tesla, and 42k is cheap to you? Get real
I'm sure there is a camera in the cab to charge them for any damage, and i imagine they will use the vegan leather that's in all the other teslas
Its a Tesla, they're not making anything cost optimized
Just another satisfied Tesla owner with direct day-to-day experience for over 7 years with over 100k miles driven by human and last 2 years mostly by FSD.
More like 15 years 😂😂
whoosh. enjoy your ludicrous speed shirt.
Wrong, Tesla make all its products cost optimized but the cybercab is especially more.
If it ever comes out, maybe it will be, and be careful using absolute terms like 'all', the cybertruck is still completely overpriced failure, not to mention the ridiculously absurd cost for add on products, which just can't be price optimized at all
Cybertruck is very cost optimized for the quality and advance tech it has. I doubt other company can match it.
The way the doors wing out so much will prevent this from being practical in many busy, tight areas
Another vertical video shot on an iPhone!
We shall see
Are-are you serious? If we spray paint the Cybercab’s cameras it can’t drive either. Lidar’s advantages make up for camera’s weaknesses and vice verse. They’re complementary technologies in the driving space.
HW3 sucks. FSD13 drives smoother than the average person on this sub.
Office chairs have lumbar support because there is so much side to side movement?
Way way smoother than a person ever can be.. sure it has bugs that are smaller by the day, but do you know that last jittery break every car has when you go from like 1mph to 0, the car kinda sloshes back and forward? Apparently fsd even eliminates that. Try to do that on any car and you will see it's close to impossible
Wow they only capture 80% of the market ahahaha damn def going to be a big failure.. And also, are you sure that groups bigger than 2, will not just split into two cyber cabs and instead go in some other more expensive alternative? Are you sure about that? I mean, the same people (people in general) that buy Ryanair and easyJet, will not split into two cybercabs? For example when I go out most of my friends take their car, so when we go from place to place there is always spliting
Fsd should be illegal until all cars on the road have it . Couldn’t pay me to drive otherwise
It’s embarrassing to act like a spoiled child when Tesla delivered arguably the best electric truck money can buy with features offered nowhere else. You people are the worst.
Currently FSD's biggest weakness isn't sensing the environment, but rather how it decides to proceed to drive. Particularly when it comes to signage, since it can't read most of it... So it relies on map data for that information. If the map data is wrong the car can have a hard time in any road situations that deviate from the map data. Waymo maintains really good map data which is regularly updated. Tesla plans to start cybercab in limited areas, and I think it's so they can also maintain detailed maps with regular updates.
Lidar is complementary to the cameras, but the cameras are critical. The Waymo vehicle could operate if the lidar was out of commission.
In my experience FSD is pretty smooth and gentle for turns, which is where the seats would help. Predicting yellow lights for smoother stopping could use some work though.
What jittery break (or did you mean brake) are you talking about?
LIDAR is blind without camera which meant it is unnecessary. You can argue a safety driver is also complementary and make self driving vehicles safer, but it is also not necessary. You can add a brunch of unnecessary things to a self driving vision only system but at the end of the day, vision is the only requirement just like human drivers today.
In addition to designing all the additional hardware, you need to design attachments for steering wheels, pedals, mirrors, seats that move into the right position. Not only that, but things like the wheel need force feedback which if you’ve seen the CyberTruck’s wheel is incredibly complicated. The CyberCab would be **over engineered** with tons of useless unnecessary considerations and parts if they did what you suggest. It’s hard enough delivering a new vehicle on time without all this extra pointless work. No, CyberCab is FSD or bust. It either works or it doesn’t. Zero economic sense for a two door mass produced human driven car. Which you can plainly see by the fact that almost no one drives those.
Gaming chairs are designed from racing seats.
Wonder if facing forward is actually safer than other seat configurations. Since there is no steering wheel why not face the back with a TV or something.
Have you seen how complicated the wheel assembly is for CyberTruck with all the force feedback mechanics? It’s not something you could easily attach to that dash. You’d need to reengineer everything behind the dash to make room for it. This is in addition to the seat not being designed for driving or positioned for driving whatsoever.
And for 100% of cab rides you don’t want to sit next to the driver.
They might have made room for that behind the dashboard, we don’t know. Easy to swap in driver’s chair. Let’s see what will happen, they are very smart people and surly hedging for FSD approvals taking time in certain parts of the world + probably want to sell cars to people that prefer driving themselves. Reason why they would not reveal that variant yet is because they don’t want to cannibalize sales of M3.
Does that mean *office chairs* have lumbar support because there is so much side to side movement?
It looks like a large pinewood derby car that someone whittled from a single block of wood.
If you have more than 2 people just order another cyber cab
Yeah, nothing says cost effective like needing a second entire car
Why is it such a big deal to you? I’m completely ambivalent about it
I’ve sat in one. Was quite comfortable.
Yes, unless if you mean a game controller, which the CyberCab has. You need to redesign the entire interior of the cabin to support driving. All the parts these driving controls - steering wheels, pedals, mirrors, attach to. The space behind them like the wheel needs force feedback and is actually a large complicated assembly if you've seen the CyberTrucks wheel. It's a ton of negative work and parts that is against the entire Tesla ethos. Tesla is successful because they can say **no** to these dumb senseless requests. Putting driving controls in a two seater car makes zero business sense to produce unless it is self driving. **Essentially no one wants a two seater car** as proven by the market. Tesla is betting they will, in significant numbers, *if* it is self driving. There's no point making it otherwise. If you're thinking about manual controls then you're missing the point.
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Man yall thinking too hard about it. Just a get a Logitech G29 controller and plug it into the USB. Steering wheel done. You really dont even need a wheel to steer it, thats like a vestige of the past. Plenty of Sim Racers are fast enough with just a gamepad
Tesla took all the technology they have up to this point - gigacasting, steer by wire, 12 volt, ethernet bus, etc.. plus new tech like unboxed manufacturing - and designed a car fresh without any driver requirements. The no driver requirement from the ground up is the **key point** here. You design a car completely different when there is no driver needed. When you design a car like that, adding back manual driving later on **is impossible**. All the people here saying 'just add a steering wheel to it' don't get it. If you want more details on how radically different the car is you can watch this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXXBIIjXq8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXXBIIjXq8)
If you've see the CyberTruck's steering wheel assembly then you'd realize how wrong you are. [https://insideevs.com/news/717617/cybertruck-teardown-steering-by-wire/](https://insideevs.com/news/717617/cybertruck-teardown-steering-by-wire/)
The new version that came out has been supremely better than previous versions. Literally drives from my driveway to the destination without any issue. Smooth acceleration / stopping, safe lane changes, proper driving. It’s been a huge improvement
You could use your eyes and see the incredible progress FSD has made in the past few years and extrapolate from there. You sound like a climate change skeptics who see's the progression all around you, but still remains unconvinced it's really happening.
how many years will this same exact mockup be posted?
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Wow you are clueless.
Tesla doesn't do negative work, and design things they don't need. A human driving two seater car is not a product that Tesla would ever release. Or any company. There is no mass market for it. So there's zero point spending a second designing it like that.
Nah bro you are. Its clear you dont game. Leave the idea of mechanical linkages back in the 90's. Its the future now. They drove the thing on stage with a controller. What other proof do you need? Its all command and button mapping now.
Dud you miss the part where I said building a whole new design for less transport is dumb if you can just use model 3 and Y's?
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You comment is case in point. Thanks.
And I'm sure that was told to you with a fancy background and maybe some music
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Can we have one parked at our own house? Sign me up!!
It’s just a two person cab vehicle? Not trying to be snarky, genuinely asking. Is it’s name going to be cybercab for real, because if so, it’s a perfect name. Sorry if these are stupid questions. It’ll be interesting to see how it feels to get in and out of these.
I’m sure they will eventually release a larger version when the kinks are worked out. And let’s be honest, people who need 2+ passenger version are families and I don’t think families want to be early adopters of a self driving cab lol
I'm gonna ignore the banality of that first bit, not sure how many times this can be told to your smooth head before it sinks in, ITS A TESLA, its already expensive, and not the only place doing this type of work, not even the field leader in it
Do you work on the prototype taxi ?? Clean design!
Last couple of months they sold more Cybertrucks than the total number of EVs sold by Porsche.
When will it be in a las vegas showroom or mall?
There’s some cheaper model getting release first half of this year, so who’s to say
Good to know. Thanks for the feedback.
So like what happens if it pops a tire on a drive? Who’s gonna call to get it serviced / fixed?
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Can't wait to have the streets choked with these endlessly circling. Tragedy of the commons.
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V13? I'm still waiting for that update, sadly, and it looks like they've all but stopped the rollout. Very few vehicles on the firmware trackers online
Was that with natural rubber form trees? That’s tree sap is white.
What if you get pulled over under the influence?? Are you gonna be charged with dwi? Or ?
Why a 2 seater? A hatchback? Wtf
And where are you hearing this ?
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investor as well, correct? people with vested interest in the TSLA share price also tend to downplay concerns that us owners have
And what do you do when 3 people need to be taxied around? Not take their order because of muh statistics or spend another jillion dollars making another 4 seat car?
No there is one thing that says brain dead even more and it's thinking that two 2 seater cars are more cost efficient than 1 four seater.
I would be curious how long it would take for the paint to rub off.
Would look pretty sweet any other color and any other wheels
GM's only 2 seater offerings are the Corvette and very few single-cab pickup trucks (a vast majority of trucks are sold as extended cab models because single cab models don't sell well).
There’s one at the Bellevue Square mall showroom location too! Just saw it yesterday.
I guess the point of the car isn’t to park it but how would you open those doors in a parking garage? maybe it would be as inconsequential as a normal car but it looks sketch
Tesla already have 4 seat car.
Exactly. It is a cosmetic thing that is going to look bad the first time it rubs a curb.
Great 😍😍💯💪
What's up with the spam posting?
I wonder why eh?
That is just ugly, like the Cyber truck
Not complicated. It has features you can’t get in any other electric or gas truck. Steer by wire, FSD. At a competitive price.
Isn’t that what the Model Q is?
They need to make that into a regular car to drive and sales will be through the roof.
Never
Where you try to brake so gradually and gently to avoid that slight lurch to a complete stop. Annoying in some vehicles but in a Tesla it’s relatively easy to accomplish (ime).
Don’t think a cybercab is the best term for it. Two doors and all.
I thought Tesla were cool, until the guy who bought this company started interfering in politics. That guy, he have very low empathy quotient vs Winston Churchill who had very high EQ this guy has close to nothing.
That’s exactly what they’re going to do
Listen to your rattles but now autonomously!
This is not the future. It's just not practical.
Maybe you haven’t experienced FSD. It’s insanely good. It would be more than practical having a bunch of these instead of Ubers. Much cheaper, don’t have to deal with anyone and much safer overall. Imagine a $5 ride to work. Would save a lot of people of who don’t have cars and want to avoid public transportation.
I'm not talking about FSD. The vehicle itself is not practical. It's poorly designed for the purpose it is intended for. The design is all flash and hype.
The biggest issue I see is if you are travelling with your family. The average family can fit in a Model 3 taxi, while you will need two separate cabs now.
Well that’s Tesla for you. Mostly Elon, trying to make everything look futuristic. Whether you like it or not it catches your eye and that’s the goal. Regarding practically, a majority of uber rides are 1-2 person. So the 2 seater makes sense. I’m sure there will be thousands of these on the road ready to give rides.
I can't wait to buy one.
The interior looks incredibly unpleasant…
[Blame iRobot](https://www.instagram.com/gentlemenschoice/p/DBBnH9RSiPG/?img_index=1)
As a proper car with a steering wheel it would be fine, lots of families have a small car just for commuting around the city and a cheap EV is perfect for that. But you might need a back seat for a car seat in that case.
That's such a weird statement. Come on.
Then hail a Model 3 when you are traveling with your whole family. Everyone who thinks they're outsmarting Tesla by pointing out that you sometimes need more than two passengers in a taxi oddly pretends that when these things launch, all Models 3, Y, S, and X will somehow suddenly disappear from the world.
I will never ever understand how anyone can trust what we've seen with FSD, especially to the point where they'd be cool with hopping into one of these things with no steering wheel or pedals. I used to be the biggest cheerleader of Tesla, I was in the original Beta FSD program with my 2018 Model 3. I have a 2023 Model Y now, and recently tried the last two free trials of FSD. I cant make it 5 minutes before having to intervene to keep the car from doing something tremendously stupid, like switching lanes into oncoming traffic or cutting someone off. Its COMPLETELY unusable for me on the freeways in the bay area. There's simply way too many lanes of traffic and it cannot tell when someone is coming up fast behind us. Its constantly changing lanes and doing absolutely stupid shit that will get me and my family killed if we relied on it. To me, Tesla is completely dead if this is the direction the company is going. And that's before even getting into the ridiculous politics of Elon Musk.
Sandy Monroe, that's a name i've not heard in a long time. A long time. In fact, i remember back when he wasn't a total loon.
It’s a cool concept if it were a midrange price roadster. As a cab, useless. TBH for the right price and remove the stupid wheel caps, I may be in the market. Could bed the Ev version of a weekend hack
Where's the roadster?
whenever they achieve level 5 autonomy. So 20+ years. FSD v13 is still considered level 2 since it needs to be supervised by human behind the wheel. (hence why they added "supervised" to their FSD brand.)
You can't spell Embarrassment Mobile without t e s l a
Cringe
You think so? Can’t imagine why anyone would buy a 2 seater unless it was very cheap. But for public transportation I think it’ll be a hit.
Looks much better in person!
Supposedly Tesla is releasing that 25k car sometime this year. Model Q!
Wait until I tell you about Elon
Facts 😂
You don’t have to drive it, your hands are the cup holders
Do you have a source for this assertion?
At half the range and double the price? It was not the vehicle promised.
[This study says average is 1.4 passengers](https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/2020-02/Ride-Hailings-Climate-Risks-Methodology_0.pdf)
Those will be instantly ruined when the car is on the street
I didn't get the memo that the other Tesla models will be confiscated and destroyed when the cybercab is released. This is a manufacturing at scale for value issue for Tesla. They already make four+ seaters. Now here come 2 seaters en masse.
>The standard amount of seats in a cab has been 4+ since cabs have existed, but sure you must be right. Yeah, spend a little more than 5 seconds thinking about why that is the case. For example: one seat is for the driver and often cab passengers don't sit next to the driver, they sit on the backseats. Furthermore, it's easier and cheaper to turn a regular car (with 4.5 seats) into cab than it is to design and produce a model specifically only for taxi use. Having said that, I still think the cyber cab is not a great idea. Seeing as how the progress FSD is making and regulatory hurdles are likely to be issues for years to come.
"small car" lol
I missed something. Which deep end did he go off?
2 seater is such a reduced utility. Cheapest m3 is way better
More like Cybercr\*p
It's the Model 2/more affordable Tesla that will be available separately probably with a steering wheel. Mark my words.
Imagine they took this design, but added more seats, and maybe even more seats so you could fit a bunch of people, maybe some walking room so they could carry cargo and stuff with them, and maybe much more durable seats and interior because you're going to have all sorts of random people constantly getting in and out who are not worried about treating the car well. Now THAT would be the future.
Agreed
Whoa, what size are those tires!? So thin
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