NEWS: Cybertruck has gotten approval in China.

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I seem to recall there being some debate on whether or not the Cybertruck could be sold "as is" outside of North America. Looks like they'll be able to start selling them in China soon.

Could be a big market for them.

Has gotten

It is so weird that Tesla does so much PR through some twitter rando

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He's not really Tesla's PR, but it does prove that Tesla doesn't really need a PR department. I would think of it more as a human link aggregator. Someone who has a bunch of notifications set up to notify him whenever something Tesla related happens, and then he jumps on trying to be "first". There's a bunch of people out there that do it, he's just one of the more prolific "on it" people.

Grand total of 380k pickup trucks are sold annually in China. So I'm not so sure. Seems like very niche market and the best sellers are priced under 30k so I'm not sure CT will have that many customers unless they can really cut the price significantly.

Can’t wait to see the CT knockoffs in China.

X randos make bank if you have enough engagement. Being a leading Tesla rando is a lucrative gig. It's what journalism used to be: make sources and report facts.

Have you seen the high tech city's? Less people buy this because it's a truck. Most people buy it because they want to live in cyberpunk.

That can't be true. Running social media accounts is a full time job. Doubt an engineer making 250k is posting reels on the side

They need to do some modifications. Not sure what's different in China but I've seen a couple get converted for euro standards.

Does this include Hong Kong? Currently living here and I wonder how the hell we drive those things here.

He's not affiliated with Tesla. He's just a prominent Tesla reporter.

This social media account doesn't belong to Tesla and isn't affiliated with Tesla. It's just a guy reporting on Tesla news. He's not an employee or contractor or anything like that.

I am not talking about that account. I am talking about @tesla on Instagram and other official tesla accounts.

Oh yeah, of course Tesla has a marketing budget. It's much smaller than other car companies, but it exists.

I wonder if they’ll have a factory in china for this?

There is no where to park in china

> They need to do some modifications. Ok > Not sure what's different in China Kind of invalidates the original statement, no? The claim on X is that the truck has been approved without modifications... > but I've seen a couple get converted for euro The EU is not China, so I could see them needing conversions.

Chinese and EU standards are not the same.  At this point even China has less strict car regulations than the EU 😂

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Except most Tesla randos like him report rumors that end up being wrong most of the time (and we just forget about) which means little facts.

> Have you seen the high tech city's The overpopulated cities with very high restrictions on car ownership, where there are lotteries just to be able to own a car?

I wonder if he's going to put up a Cybertruck line in China then. They tariff EV imports HARD so it'll just be a super high end flex vehicle (well, even more super high end flex vehicle) until they build these in China.

Is the Cybertruck actually a good car or awful? There is so much noise around anything Musk that I don’t know what to make of it. Seems like a fair amount of early production issues, but a solid product otherwise?

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Yes... The cars you see there are the nice expensive ones... This fits right in.

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He's not a kid. He also regularly and frequently reports Tesla news and information, so he's definitely a reporter.

The general consensus from the Cybertruck subreddit is that it is a good truck with some production issues here and there that Tesla is hammering out.

I think there were posts from more than one person on X around the same time. Perhaps it’s just folks trying to be first since they are getting paid by X for engagements by verified accounts

Full-size pickups are not exactly a hot commodity in China. I don't see how the investment of building a manufacturing line there would have a good payoff for the local market. Now, if it was for exporting to other local markets that actually have demand, then that's a different story.

Lets be honest here... there are probably a handful of people who bought/buy the CT as a pickup truck. The rest buy them to flex or because they have enough money to buy it for its novelty.

Tbh while some of the videos Tesla make are probably classified as traditional product adverts, many of their videos could also be construed as equally advertising for job candidates who are interested in working for Tesla My bet is the same team does both, as well as the video tutorials that show how new owners how to charge, how to use Dog Mode, etc. So it’s a tiny video production team, whose output is only half “regular car advertising” as most ppl would think of that term

This is a bit misleading. It's not "approval" in a general sense, it's the issuance of the equivalent of the EPA's fuel economy standard label. It does not mean the CT is coming to China.

This is what I want to know. I’m in Australia, and our teslas come from China. I’d imagine a CT manufacturing line in Shanghai would be a good first step towards us getting it too!

Of course, it’s good diplomacy to keep the president happy

Lol yes and I'm sure a subreddit full of folks that plopped 120k down on a truck are going to be totally unbiased.  You'll see posts there like "this is my 6th bricking and tow to the service center, only been able to drive it twice, but still love the truck!"  Also, being useless in snow because of snow packing the front light bar isn't a production issue, it's a design issue in a pile of design issues, IMHO.

Initially there were some posts like that, however, the production of the trucks has improved significantly, so we're seeing a lot less of those posts.

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Do you want reviews from people who don't own it? Not sure your point here. Where is a better source of information?

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I can’t imagine these will be bought by the sorts of people who can’t easily afford the tariffs.

How else are they going to copy it

You don't think the biggest news sites post rumors? "Sources familiar with the matter"

This is not even close to CT approval, it's the first step in approval. A lot of other approvals need to happen before CT will be in China.

Asians, especially Chinese love to flex their wealth ;)

They'll get a factory up and running in 3 months tops. Maybe 6 if we're being fair.

Lottery for any car that isn't an EV. Key point you're missing there.

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I’m not sure why you think they would have stricter standards.

Huh? Tesla is not paying him to do PR

Judging by the impressions of actual owners yes, it is their best product yet.

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Well first of all, Tesla isn't doing anything. Sawyer has been doing this on his own for years. It happened organically. Second, he's not just "some twitter rando". He's an investor in the company and so has an interest in keeping up-to-date. Furthermore, many of his followers are also investors keen on keeping up with current events in the company. There's an massive and very active Tesla investor community on twitter. He's also probably making decent money from twitter ad-share. Third, not sure why you think it's "weird'. It's actually quite amazing. I can't think of any company that has garnered as big a community of investors that are as obsessed, supportive, and enduring, as Tesla's. The only one that comes close is perhaps Apple 20 years ago (that i can think of).

You're looking at it completely backwards. This isn't targetting the same demographic as a $30k work truck. So pickup truck sales are a meaningless comp. It's a luxury status symbol. It's very high tech. It's very flashy and stands out. It's expensive. 3.74m luxury cars were sold in the Chinese market in 2023. These are the potential customers.

***"****In large Chinese cities, car buyers must go through a lottery system to get hold of a license plate.* ***Electric car buyers can bypass this process.****"* *https://www.fiducia-china.com/regulatory-highlights-in-chinas-ev-industry/#:\~:text=License%20plate%20lottery%20system%20exemption,the%20central%20and%20local%20governments.* Tell me you know nothing about the chinese car industry without telling me you know nothing...

They didn't drop the price. They started deliveries for the lower end trim. They prioritized pre-orders of the most expensive trim which included $20k worth of options when they first started production because doing this offsets the higher fixed costs associated with lower production. This isn't a price cut. Now that they've sufficiently ramped up production they can sell the less expensive trims profitably as they benefit from larger ecnomies of scale.

I had exactly the opposite experience. Could never tell who was rich. They’d live in some apartment building that looked awful on the outside but was completely decked out inside. They’d dress like slobs. I wasn’t in China much though.

> You don't think the biggest news sites post rumors? Is that what I said? Reread it, clearly reading comprehension is something you need to work on.

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Ok let me explain it like you're five. You're trying to say he's not a journalist for posting unsubstantiated claims. My point is professional journalists do the same thing. Peacemicdroplearntoread

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Exactly the point, that Tesla doesn't need a PR department because people will do it for them for free.

Because they set them more recently and want to aggressively phase out older cars to support their domestic car industry

It’s fine as a general purpose truck the way most really use them. Probably not what you’d buy for serious rock crawling (that would be a very used 1990-2000’s Toyota that you replaced just about every part on anyway), as a work truck (your company bought that, not you), and it’s not going to replace your serious boar/rv hauler. But all of those are true for the R1T as well. And aren’t applicable to the people buying the loaded F150 and driving it to the office every day. As a daily driver for an urban/suburban commuter who mainly uses the “truck” part of a truck to haul crap from Home Depot to their house, kids sports stuff, camping, or other general light duty task most use a truck for it’s really it’s seriously fine. It just has extremely polarizing looks, and attracts a lot of (possibly unwanted) attention.

Let me explain it to you like you’re five, since you clearly not getting it. I answered to this statement: > It's what journalism used to be: make sources and report facts To which I responded that not even these individuals are reporting facts. Because most of the time that’s exactly what they’re not doing. There, does that clear things for you? If not I can dumb it down even more, so let me know.

u/WenMunSun any update?

Efficiency sticker is one of the last steps. They wouldn't pursue ones without imminent plans to bring the vehicle to market.

You're still here?

Sure, but my point is that it's a bit preemptive to say that it "has gotten approval" for market off of just the AECL issuance.

> It does not mean the CT is coming to China. To me, that's the only thing it definitely means.

It WILL be a big market for them

Dude just let it go.

I don't think it'll pass regulation because of the sharp edges, but will be interesting

According to China’s official website, Tesla’s pickup truck approval order was invalidated within 12 hours of being passed.

It’s true but they would drive a luxury car.

Agreed, but you would rarely see them in their car.

Doesn’t matter. I would see the cars.