Tesla Cybertuck Line Workers Told To Stay Home: ‘No Need To Report To Work’

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Considering the quality problems they’ve had, it Could be to fix issues with the line. You’d think a 3 day stoppage woul be too short to meaningfully reduce inventory. the question is, how much can they drop the price without losing huge money? People want the cybertruck, but they want it much closer to the 2019 price. So maybe 50k in today’s dollars.

No surprise. I was a reservation holder because I was looking at the single-motor 40k option for purchase in 2021. Putting aside the quality issues, the cheapest one available right now in almost 2025 is 75k. Not happening.

From the article: It’s an attention-grabbing machine, and its sales success has so far been undeniable. It managed to climb to the top of the best-selling electric pickups chart in the second quarter in the United States, surpassing the Rivian R1T and Ford F-150 Lightning, both of which have been on sale for longer. But the initial boost seems to be drying out. Yesterday, workers at Tesla’s Austin factory, which assembles the Cybertruck, were told to stay home for the next three days, according to a memo seen by Business Insider. "On Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday this week (Dec. 3-5), you do not need to report to work," the memo said. Workers were told to report back to work on Friday and that they would still be paid for the three days that they were supposed to work. Tesla doesn’t reply to questions from the media, so there’s no way of confirming if this is related to a demand problem or something else. Some workers would not follow the adjusted schedule and would be notified separately, the memo said. However, factory workers on the Cybertruck line have occasionally been given other duties instead of building trucks since late October, according to Business Insider. Four workers said they had inconsistent schedules in the past month, either because they were sent home or given additional training exercises or cleaning duties instead of regular duties. "When I started at Tesla you could expect to get overtime pay, now I feel lucky to get 40 hours," one worker on the Cybertruck line said.

Odds are there's some design issue that they're trying to rectify. Frankly, the headlight situation in the snow is a big enough problem that I'd be slowing deliveries until they sort that shit out. I don't think there's a demand problem. I'm the person who decides whether or not you gain entry to /r/Cybertruck, and I can tell you right now that there's not a day that goes by where there's not requests from people to join to do "research", have a reservation in, are planning to buy one, or because they've bought the truck And not like one request a day either, it's multiple requests a day. *Every* time I open reddit, I'm either dealing with a /r/Cybertruck join request, or banning someone for sharing their referral code *If you're reading this and going "You're the asshole that won't let me in!" keep in mind that you're someone who isn't actively participating in the sister communities, or proving you own a truck. I have a **very** low bar to letting people in* The Cybertruck is *profitable* at Tesla and is the best selling EV truck out there, beating all competitors. I doubt that there's a demand issue, but rather production/design issues. I live in Central Florida and there's not a day that goes by where I don't see Cybertrucks driving around the roads. Hell, I was in Lakeland, FL [home to some very large hate groups](https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/the-growing-state-of-hate) and rednecks, and I'm seeing bunches of them around town *Per the article*, Tesla doesn't answer to the media, and as such we don't know why they gave employees three days off. Best guess is retooling the assembly line, or some hardware in the assembly line needed fixing, but no one is really going to broadcast production problems.

$80k before any reductions. The truck is cool, but the people who spend $80k on trucks aren’t buying a cybertruck. The interior is definitely not an $80k interior (let alone the $100k+ people paid).

I’m thinking one of two possibilities: 1. Retooling for RWD Cybertruck so they can tap the $60k budget reservation holders. 2. Retooling for dry cathode batteries that they showed off a few months ago. They were rumored at the time to go into volume production by the end of the year. This would amount to a significant cost savings that could bring Cybertruck closer to the target prices a million+ people were waiting for.

Why is it a private subreddit in the first place?

I accidentally left the group a few months back. I requested to join again. *crickets*

It was attracting more assholes than people interested in the truck. Look at any comment thread on a Facebook post about Cybertruck. It was like that.

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Hang on, I gotta dig up my copy/paste responses here... G'day /r/Cybertruck has had a long standing issue with hostile/toxic users, as well as users taking the content from our subreddit and reposting it in oppositional subreddits for folks to mock the /r/Cybertruck userbase at. After countless hours of working through the issues with Reddit Admins, and failing to come to an equitable solution, we opted to take the subreddit private to terminate this hostile/toxic behavior from oppositional subreddits Going forward users who wish to participate in the subreddit must either show proof of ownership of a Cybertruck, if they claim to own one, or must have good standing in the established Tesla communities, such as TeslaLounge, TeslaMotors, etc, etc. If we cannot determine whether or not the user is a net positive contribution to the community, then we're not allowing them access to the community, as we've no desire for the content posted here to be leveraged elsewhere to allow folks to harass/jeer/mock our users. We apologize for the inconvenience.

I'm in south Florida and, I realize it's not going to be like that everywhere, but cybertrucks here are so common that unless it has a unique wrap, I barely even notice it anymore.

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You forgot: 3. No demand left.

> Retooling for dry cathode batteries But that wouldn't have anything to do with the line workers. They take a battery pack from elsewhere and attach it to the frame. They don't care what's inside of it.

The thing that lost me was that I wanted the 500+ range they advertised. That was my deal breaker.

Thanks for the quick response!

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I'm certain the demand has run out at the current price point. It was a polarizing design at the start, but the 40k price tag was worth it. Tesla hasn't even made any announcements about a single motor variant. I guarantee they thought that the stainless steel would be cheaper than it turned out to be, and are now paying the price.

Lol what? I see multiple cyber trucks a day these things are selling very well

Agreed

It is not just 10 to 15. It's 3x or 4x that depends on the day. The problem is that the sub is not searchable. You have to type it into the browser or click a link to take you to the sub. That is why we have automod saying the sub is private. I've also made another comment above for more info.

Insideevs is very anti Tesla. Don't trade stocks on their advice.

They're quoting business insider 😂

I got one at 100. And I'd do it again in a second. I pass 20 a day and get stopped at least once a day to chat with interested people. It outsells all other EV trucks combined and was the number one vehicle over 100K since it released. It will only continue to grow as they cut price.

I’m still ready to buy what I reserved: $79K for tri-motor, 500 miles of range, FSD, and 6 seats.

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That wouldn’t be a 3 day shut down.

Considering they are paying the workers those days, I suspect it's just retooling.

You say you have a low bar for entry but I actually have a truck, actively post releases news time to times and still didn’t get in. Odd.

There are tons of people getting them in my area. It’s anecdotal but I didn’t think demand had actually dried up. Although, they’re calling and pushing me to get one even though just got a new TM3.

This

Assuming the switch doesn’t involve any other design changes, it could just be that they shut CT pack production down completely to transition and have exhausted the old supply. It’s not like they’re so production constrained right now that they can’t afford to shut the line down.

Curious where do you live that you pass 20 a day

Demand has not dried up because I am a day one reservation holder for awd in Canada and they offered me a foundation series a few months ago but they have not called in my reservation yet.

there's only so many times you can repaint the fences

Ok, so, about a month ago one of the other moderators was helping go through the approvals, then they tapped out and let me handle them all personally. Looks like the other moderator filtered your request. I will say you lack sufficient post history, so you'd have gotten filtered on that, but you mention Cybertruck ownership, so they probably missed that mention of it. If you request access now, I'll hit you with the "Prove it" copy/paste response, and once you give us the proof I'll let you in.

For me it was being skipped over as a front of the line reservation holder to get offered a ridiculous $100k truck that isn’t even the top of the line trim that I signed up for. I’ll never buy a cybertruck after waiting 5 years and then getting the bait and switch.

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They live at the gigafactory lol

Sounds like an arbitrary excuse. If 500 miles is a reality, it’ll be something else “stopping” you from getting it.

I mean is 16k in the US overall selling very well? That's the high end of estimates of how many have been sold.

That was the selling point to me. Instead, got the model Y that was cheaper but had a good range.

Wait. Are they still getting paid though??

🤣 +1

Hot take, they’re retooling for Juniper on the other line, and are just limiting the people on site for it. I’ve never been to Giga Texas though, so I have no idea if the two production lines are remotely close to each other or what I’m talking about.

In the heart of the Midwest. I get more ICE truck owners with questions than anything. Except for diesel truck owners, they are a unique breed.

The pasted article says 27k but I see your point.

Do you have a theory for why line workers aren’t working for three days straight?

Fantasyland.

I’m the same as them. I made my reservation based on range. Additionally, I was hoping my dog could stay in the vault during road trips which also turned out to be a lie.

Oh interesting. Yeah was just asking bc I live in one of the top areas for Tesla sales in general (Bay Area) but only see 1-3 on my average commute. And my commute is longer than most people’s.

Insideevs is bad enough...

Was one of the most active people on there and yall never let me re join. Answered so many people’s questions. Me and John the tea guy were the OG’s. https://preview.redd.it/vvz6e5xl9n4e1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50725784d01def15cebd3e5ce5c3ebd5cb023596 See top 5%. Lol

I'm from Walnut Creek originally and lived in the city for two years. I'd rather take the BART than drive a CT in the city :) Oof - my palms got sweaty thinking about it.

The 27k is world wide.

Honestly while a $60K RWD with a shorter range would convert *some* reservation holders initially I think it’d end up sitting like the F-150 Lightning does after a while because it’s just not as compelling when the range goes below 300. They need to scale those 4680s up to hit 300 mile range on a $60K truck or it’ll be tough to keep volume up, especially if tax credits are actually going away for good. Without a federal credit a $60K truck is already the equivalent of what would have been a $67.5K price.

Well could be a place like Austin. I see a lot of them here along multiple other EVs the RT1 by far out numbers the cyber truck in my sightings but when my wife and I have traveled to say Fort Worth a comment we have made to each other is where the EVs. It goes from a tons of them to they are rare sight.

I'll still never understand why they didn't focus on building a more affordable, slightly smaller truck. With more range. With the electric motors, you don't need the vehicle to be huge to have a lot of power. That's like the whole point imo.

Yeah I do see a ton of R1T/R1S to be clear, if someone told me they see 20 of those a day I wouldn’t blink

Your posts were stale (Over two years ago), and you didn't provide proof of ownership when asked. You claimed your posts were deleted when the subreddit went private, but that's not how that works. In fact, I've admitted a bunch of people who had solid post histories in the subreddit before the subreddit went private.

I agree. If they push out RWD now, it will just be a stop gap to keep the line going. The bottom line is that even though it’s the “best selling EV truck”, the ultimate decider is going to be price for range. They need to bring the cost down.

If I had my old commute to my former office it would be far enough for me to be pushing 10-20 cybers a day. Oddly enough I see more GMC EV Hummers than cybers trucks mind you it is the same 3 and just due the route to doggie day care and 2 of the dog owners there drive them with roughly same pick up and drop off times as me. Outside of those hummers I can count on one hand how many I have seen in the wildes

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Same for road trips I do for work a lot i have had to drive from Wisconsin to Philly a few times, NJ, and Oklahoma and as long as your in a area with the infrastructure you are good but I also have to go out to very rural parts of Oklahoma only time I have gotten range anxiety.

I don't waste time arguing with bots. Have a good life.

Yes

There's Canada and Mexico and a few bought in the US and shipped. Mexico first starting getting theirs in Sept? and Canada in November/late Oct. So basically it's 27K in the US with maybe <1000 in Mexico and Canada

there are literally tons of reasons.

Agreed on the retooling. Just a note, the snow on the headlight was actually reported after the first snow fall from first time buyers last year.

Because it probably wouldn't be more efficient. Rivian R1T gets similar wh/mi and it is TINY.

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I think this was always an Elon vanity project. He wanted to build a meme. I think he gets bored running a normal company with normal products. If he's not 'disrupting' and making stuff that everyone says is too difficult he just turns into an attention seeking teenager. SpaceX gives him the excitement he needs, but Tesla has become just another car company. He keeps trying to pretend they're revolutionary, but often just ends up looking like a monorail salesman. So the Cyber Truck was, I think, his attempt to pander to a certain group of people in order to wow them. It wasn't a serious effort to make EV trucks mass market.

This is just speculation, but maybe they are refitting one of the model y lines for juniper? Or perhaps maintenance on the cybertruck line?

Empirically they are not

Waiting for cybertruck to be the promised 40k. If they do that, I am game. Otherwise they can go fly an electric kite.

rekt X megrarekt !

I live in Southern California and they are prevalent. However so is the ford lightning.

Naw, the whole point was to prove that they can slap a Tesla logo on any hunk of metal that drives and people will literally pre order it in advance knowing that they’ve literally never delivered a single time on all promises.

People are allowed to like different things than you.

Ben Franklin invented the electric kite and it’s shocking that in all this time the idea hasn’t taken off.

Every time Tesla shut down a line for a few days, people have said its demand problems. Then they reopen the line after some adjustments and go back to selling normally. At some point, someone is being a clown saying this

But a 3 day shutdown also doesn’t reduce production by a whole lot either - it’s not 3 months like the F150 Lightning. I’m not saying all of us guessing are incorrect, but taking only what’s been “reported,” 3 days of involuntary PTO at this point in the quarter doesn’t necessarily indicate the world is ending. Now if it ends up being that they come back to work and start scrubbing floors or this turns into unpaid furlough, then yeah, that would be a bad sign.

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Too bad. I liked seeing pictures of the trucks, but I'm not jumping through hoops to try to get into a sub.

“All trucks look the same. You can’t tell them apart. Well we are doing something different!” Cybertruck proceeds to still retain 90% design if a “pick up” truck and only thing different is the angles and no paint.

Despite how much hate the CT gets, I would still get one if it were actually $40k. At $80k, it's way way way too expensive.

I’m waiting on the $7500 credit, will it happen? The price was bumped up over $20000 more than expected already for the AWD standard cybertruck.

Are they? I used to read Electrek until they went full on anti Tesla. Especially one of the writers Fred something. Every article is either negative or has a negative spin on it. And the comments…ooooh boy.

You can always go inverse insideevs, like inverse Jim Cramer

Well the 6 seats I don't think is going to happen at any point

$40k is an outrageously low price. Just compare it to a gas pickup with similar features. They would have 10 years of demand at $40k. Not happening.

Very location specific. I bet you see a lot in the cities, but start leaving populated areas and they will be a rare occurrence at best.

Well it’s the best selling EV pickup on the market.

They come to work Friday with Optimus doing their job.

Tiny is a bit of an exaggeration. It's mid size

I only used that number because that's the number they literally used in their presentation. It's obviously not realistic. $50k is though. Anything more is a no go (for the base trim, not the beast).

Your opinions are opinions. Value is subjective.

It’s a damned shame, too!

and before that Rivian and ford both had that crown while they worked through their pre-orders as well. Selling pre-orders is one thing, selling after pre-orders are gone is a completely different thing and the cybertruck seems to have trouble doing the latter.

If the model Y suits your needs, Cybertruck is absolutely the wrong vehicle for you.

That 16k is for a single quarter (Q3), while the other 11k mentioned in the OP article is said to be the sales up to June of this year, but there doesn't seem to be any mention of sales for June or July. The 11k for January to June 1 is just a guess too, because of a recall (it affected 11,008 units I believe), but for the first two quarters of the year, Tesla didn't provide independent sales numbers in their quarterly reports. We won't get official numbers for October and November until the end of this quarter, so in total, we have about 4 months of missing additional counts to add to that 27k referenced. Somewhere in the middle of the summer, it was calculated that the run rate of 1000 units a week has been exceeded, so the missing June, July, October, and November counts could easily be 16-18k. The total built and sold is somewhere near 46k so far based on the newest VINs that have been delivered and registered last week. For comparison sake though, the Lightning sold just shy of 27k units in 2023, underperforming projections and leading to cutting production down to 1600 units a week for 2024. However, their sales seem to have picked up, seeing as their end of Q3 total was 22,807, putting them on track to beat 2023, but still far behind Tesla. Contrary to other statements here, as of this moment, Tesla only has 2 Cybertrucks in inventory, compared to hundreds of the Model Y, so they hardly have a demand problem whatever the actual sales numbers end up being. They also always close each line they have for a 2 to 4 day period near the end of the year for line updates, process improvements, and anything else that increases their efficiency in preparation for the next model year production. Some of the Model Y lines are set to be closed for longer over Christmas, and I believe 2 of the Model 3 lines are also seeing a 3 day shutdown later in the month. This whole article just shows that they still do this for all products and doesn't add anything new about anything.

No one knows the future, but at this time it’s the best selling EV pickup truck on the market.

Empirically they are outselling the competition. And empirically they are the only brand making money on their electric trucks. If you don't know anything, it's ok to leave the "reply" button unclicked.

A 1998 Ford Ranger size EV Truck would be incredible.

I predict changes to the line needing to be done.

It did take off... and that was the problem.

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Well glad you cleared that up. It’s been decided.

I say this all the time, imagine with Tesla's lead in technology if they made the first real truck, in a larger and smaller size, they would absolutely own the EV truck market for decades. Instead we got an Elon toy vision....

SoCal. There are so many cycbertrucks in SGV and OC. Two of my neighbors have them and park them on the street.

Don’t trade this stock based on any normal stock fundamentals either. Edit: I’m not saying it a bad investment. Don’t get offended, bros. I am saying conventional investing principles have been defied. Don’t get upset over the observation.

Numerous listed in your comment above. Just a wealth of information here

There's a mall parking lot near me we jokingly call the Tesla graveyard because all the unsold Teslas get parked there. The graveyard has been aggressively expanding and the amount of Cybertrucks parked there is shocking. Meanwhile I have only seen 1-2 actually on the road in my area ever.

I confirm, I’m one of them, it’s a nice atmosphere over there now.

[Glad to hear the experience continues to be good](https://cdn-useast1.kapwing.com/static/templates/soldier-protecting-sleeping-child-meme-template-full-797a1845.webp) Don't hesitate to report bad actors. I'm trying to keep them out, but sometimes someone slips by.

Pretty much this. There was that fan render around the announcement that would have sold like hot cakes (and probably legal in a country that actually has safety laws), but Musk wanted to meme.

Makes sense. So Cal is way more into pick ups

The Cybertruck gets [10% better highway efficiency](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WfiCe3n9eM) than the smaller R1T despite being shaped like a large doorstop, but the usable battery capacity of the CT is 17% less than the max spec R1T. If you shrunk the frontal cross-section of the CT or raised its battery capacity, either change would contribute to a healthy range increase. It's just physics.

It's a paid 3 days off. If there was a lack of demand they'd a) be shutting down for longer and b) trying not to pay people. The headline blowing this up more than reality. It's very likely line changes or retooling and they don't need 100s of people standing around while the engineers are working.

The average new car price in the US is now 48K (ish).

Stop the infotainment bs in the second row, give it 6 Seats and a through-load bed/ rear window and its a proper working truck!

like what.

insane comment lmao

EV pickups in general are a very small market, they're nowhere near gas pickups.

>If you don't know anything, it's ok to leave the "reply" button unclicked. Yeah it is, especially if you don't know what "empirically" means  [Tesla has sold 28,000 Cybertrucks to date.](https://www.coxautoinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Kelley-Blue-Book-EV-Sales-Report-Q3-2024-revised-10-14-24.pdf) Never in automotive history has that number qualified as "selling very well" for year 1 of new vehicle release. Additionally they are only outselling the competition if you include Model 3 and Y in the equation - \*not\* on Cybertrucks alone. If you look at the link above, Rivian has sold 42,610 to date Read up before you speak bro

“Workers were told to report back to work on Friday and that they would still be paid for the three days that they were supposed to work.“ To me, it seems like if they are paying them then they would’ve put them to work on another product. I wager they needed the factory less full for some maintenance reason.

I doubt they will go below 50k, but very curious how low the price drops will go.

In his biography he says his child drew the truck and he made it real. Just dad shit, settle down.

You’re right. And the Cybertruck is still the best selling EV pickup truck on the market.

They won't bring in the cheaper single motor variant till they believe the demand has run out at the higher trims.

Seriously, it's car-shopping 101. People in USA seem to struggle with it, for some reason. "I need to go shopping, should I get a car that will drive me to the store quickly, quietly and at low cost, or should I get a fucking semi-truck, or maybe something that can transport a space shuttle." I swear, if it was legal you'd drive around in mining trucks. Completely braindead.

After they they didn't deliver on the range I got the model y since it was cheaper. I really enjoy it.

I guarantee you see many, many, many more Platinum F-150s and Denail GMCs you just don't recognize it because they aren't screaming *"look at me, look at me!!"*

lol you don't believe that do you? He doesn't even spend time with half his kids, if any of them.

That's the point. The level of effort to get into the subreddit means people who are genuinely interested will get through *Thus far*, all the people who have gotten in have been *much* happier with the subreddit's experience.

That's a good point. A three day stop would mean about 500 fewer trucks produced, and about three days' worth of demand. Seems like if they'd really want to cut inventory numbers they'd stop for a longer period.

This is common practice with **all** dealerships, not just Tesla. There's a mall in Brandon, FL with a shit ton of Nissans in their parking lot.

Fourth paragraph. First sentence.

But Joe Rogan said it was the greatest, after he shot the side of it with a bow and arrow ;)

I want to know what Joe Tegtmeyer has on this. He seems to have good contacts in the Austin factory.

Every now and then one of those pops up. Good luck getting it to work though.

From the looks of it it’s coming. Not from Tesla but from a brand called Telo

how many are still on the road.

I think this is his strategy. Build an expensive product to “fund” the less expensive product. Model S funded the X, MX funded the M3 and MY. MY/M3 funds the next project. They said before they had a backup project if this one failed. Look at star link, same thing here. First panels were expensive, now it’s getting to mobile subscribers. Edit: For all the downvoters https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-cybertruck-ceo-elon-musk-pickup-truck/ Specifically states “If this isn’t what buyers want — though its reception indicates Tesla may have struck gold — Musk said Tesla will simply do what everyone else does and build a more typical kind of truck. Seriously, that’s the plan, according to Tesla’s boss. Tesla didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.”

Ford needs to do a Maverick EV. Sell it as a town truck, 250mi range, make it sub $40K.

lol, sure

It's designed to compete with the F150 not the Ranger. They could drop the price if they wanted to.

Yes a CT with a bigger battery that doesn't take a third of the bed would be awesome. That said the battery that takes a third of the bed makes the bed equivalent to an R1T's bed. What blows is no spare tire storage. Probably going to end up with a swing arm on the back.

I live in the sf Bay Area and commute 60 miles a day. I usually see 2 a day

Price and range made me cancel as well.

yea, like laying off the linemen due to poor sales edit: one single day later and tesla halted production of the cybertruck :) https://mashable.com/article/tesla-cybertruck-shutdown

Yeah to be fair that was pre covid. It's not just inflation, but they pushed this project back and prioritized model 3/Y during covid when supplies were tough to get.

I mean partly I'm impressed that Rivian have sold so many. I do tend to ignore them because their profit margin is MINUS 125%, which means the cars should cost 2½ times as much, and would absolutely not sell in anything like those numbers, even if they were sold at 0% profit. But Tesla also lost money in the beginning.... on the other hand they never lost _that_ much money, and they moved to profitability much, much quicker than Rivian. Also Rivian sold 14,317 in their first three quarters of sales, so your automotive history troll seems extra weird. In general, comparing production startup between Tesla Cybertruck and Rivian is fairly dumb... why? Because Rivians are pretty-much hand-built, and Cybertruck is mass-produced on a setup designed for scale and profitability. That's why Rivian is still losing money hand-over-fist, and Cybertruck is already profitable. So basically, you needn't worry about Cybertruck: they can bring the price down, sell it in the Americas where they'll love charging it with solar. The oil companies will writhe and fight, might win some battles, but they will lose the war.

But making more power is cheap. More range is expensive due to batteries. A smaller truck would help a little with range that's true though

That's because Tesla is pushing the pricing trend. If conventional car companies want to get back on the green, they need to start selling $20k and maybe sub $20k cars with some attractive features. That would put some pressure on Tesla. Didn't they promise a sub $40k truck and a sub $30k car? Wasssupwithdat?

The truck is awesome. That is all.

Agreed. I would havepaid the inflated cost for 500 miles but now ive waited a year and driven a few times... I want improvements: 1. Better visibility from driver seat 2. More comfortable back seats 3. Factory clear coat (the hand smudges are rediculous) 4. Overall polish and quality improvements I still think its the best option but they really dropped the ball on this.

Can you share this render?

Taken in context that doesnt impress me that much. A truck that had 2 million preorders should have sold good. Does it have staying power? An overwhelming majority of reservation holders cancelled/didnt take... thats a bigger tell than anything else IMO

I still think they would be more successful and still compete with F150 if they made something closer to a Rivian, but more affordable. Could still make the larger/ more powerful /more expensive Cybertruck later on after you've worked out the kinks with the smaller mass-produced truck.

What project?

Tesla announced they are working on a cheaper model. And they have cut the price while other car companies are not. Not everything is Tesla's fault or responsibility. ICE companies can produce a 20K car today. They don't want to.

Fred means well. He’s an early investor and still very big in the Tesla Motors community. He’s grown to be very at odds with Musk over their differences in ethics and that adds a different dimension to his reporting. You’ll find that he does have a very complete understanding of the issues though.

>Also Rivian sold 14,317 in their first three quarters of sales, so your automotive history troll seems extra weird. There is no trolling going on here. All I did was point out that Cybertrucks are not selling well. You incorrectly inferred all that other nonsense

It's larger than most midsize trucks like the 2024 Ford Ranger and Toyota Tacoma (except the long bed double cab model). But yes it is smaller than full size trucks like the F150.

Yep. That’s what I reserved, not the $150K celebrity showpiece. My opinions of the CT change every three days now, and I’d be committing social seppuku if I bought one, but I’m absolutely not paying twice the price for half the product.

Ok, so you don't actually care about empiricism. Gotcha.

I paid for a reservation for one and I have waited and may never buy it. It's not really the price that is the problem (most full size trucks are $80K), it's not even that I feel like they really have any mechanical issues It's mostly because in the Midwest they are still so widely ridiculed that I don't think people would leave you alone about it. I don't want to drive something that makes every stranger feel like they need to talk to me about it. It's just too damn polarizing still.

See them all the time in LA

I’ll always be surprised they didn’t take an existing platform like the Y and throw a little 4-5 ft bed pickup on it. Probably would have printed money.

What? All those 5 dollar reservations filled so they could post on their IG story they 'reserved' a Cybertruck were not real sales? No way. I am shocked. Literally cannot fathom this.

At one point he said Tesla would build a “regular” pickup if the Cybertruck didn’t sell well. Maybe someday we’ll see that truck.

It's simple. For marketing purposes Tesla made the 'reserve a Cybertruck' stupid cheap. So that millions of people dropped the pennies so they could post on social media they reserved now. Now it's their turn "Your truck is ready to be built" and they of course have no way to pay for it. Likely didn't even want it. Just didn't want to miss out of the cool trend to post your reservation. So now they are out of orders and don't need to be running full-time.

I reserved one for $50k and 500 mile range. When that one is available, I'll buy it..

https://www.behance.net/gallery/78909965/TESLA-Pickup

Had to look up the snow/headlight issue. Wild.

Well, here's their chance to get back on top and get Tesla to fulfill their low cost car promises.

Yeah, I live in Florida, but head up north from time to time, it's a pretty big design flaw, like the thick A-pillars, that's stopping me from moving forward with it. Realistically speaking, the fix shouldn't be too hard, just some kind of lensing thing that goes in front of the headlight to keep the snow out of the groove, but yeah, as the saying goes, "It's a California car".

Thanks!

3 days off, with pay, and they can’t confirm it’s a demand issue. Sounds like a change to the manufacturing process of some kind and or maintenance. Reddit be like: the dumpster truck is a failure! 😂

Yah I get it. I am not the biggest fan, for some reason reddit said I might be interested in this thread, but it's crazy to me so many of these kinds of problems exist on the truck. And they just keep coming. From the accelerator pedal and then snow/headlights? Basically says it was never tested in those conditions right? If it was that is even worse. "Just ship it".

It should happen. That's the master plan. Priority today is FSD/Taxi.

I have to look it up but there was a back up for the cyber truck if this fell thru

Most algorithms recommend things that are controversial to the person browsing in order to try and garner some engagement from them. I've been using old.reddit.com on my desktop and found a way to get RIF working on my phone. I refuse to use the Reddit mobile app, or new.reddit.com. Though, I will admit that sh.reddit.com is interesting.

Trash product at a trash price! I wonder when those roadster reservation holders will see their car. What a joke.

Makes sense. Guess it worked!


Pre-Covid and before the Cybertruck getting beefed up with all types of things like steer by wire, 48v, rear steering, etc. It went from a cheap, mass produced truck to the best vehicle Tesla makes because feature requirements poured in during the years it was being finalized.

The SpaceX sub is a great place because it’s full of SpaceX/rocket/space enthusiasts who don’t buy the FUD pushed on mainstream Reddit. The Tesla subs suck now because they’re too full of Tesla/Elon haters and just pump all the negative headlines from mainstream Reddit.

Conventional car companies should join forces with Chinese car companies and turn out self-driving cars also. That capability has nothing to do with being "electric" cars.

This looks bad

> about three days' worth of demand You are assuming a 1:1 ratio of production and demand. In that case they would never stop production. That they are pausing for three days suggests it will have a significantly greater impact on inventory than that.

Who knows… he says a lot of things. I don’t think he’s overly worried about whether they’re true or not - he says things to manipulate people.

Me too.

Business Insider is a total trash publication.

lol. I think the Cybertruck looks pretty bad, but man-oh-man this is just terrible. I'm surprised how much I don't like it.

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80k with 500 miles of range would be more palatable

What demand? Fill out the battery pack to 500 miles of range and fix a few known issues that were highlighted with frame, electrical components and headlights and I will pay over reservation sticker price. I need a 200kW brick to pull and power my electric airstream silently. I don’t care what it looks like of it can do the job.

As much as I hate the dumpster with wheels, it’s likely just retooling. They’re first generation vehicles that clearly need a lot of tweaks. They would be assigning folks to other projects or laying them off if demand was dropping.

I totally get this. I'm no where near as crazy as that dude but I really like doing "new things" for my company and then they send me to do something else new when I turn in a functional rough draft and someone else comes behind me to polish.

Stock propped up on meme hopes and unicorn farts

Fair.

We have short memories around here.

Im going for a Rivian R1T after trying it out.

This was also my deal breaker. I deposited because the 500 mile range would work for my road trips. It barely does 300, so it wasnt what i signed up for.

Gotta fix the stupid headlights getting blocked by snow. 400+ miles of range at a minimum too.

That thing looks hideous.

You’re never going to see a car under $20,000 “with some attractive features” because of modern safety requirements. The airbag modules alone would make up about 25% of the cost of the car. I’m not saying that cars couldn’t be less expensive than they are now, and I know that there is massive profit margin in SUVs, but even the cheapest econobox has thousands of dollars of safety hardware in it that did not exist 20 years ago.

That's why I said "about". We haven't seen giant piles of inventory, so I'd be surprised if the buy rate is less that 80% of the production rate. In which case my "about three days" becomes "about 3.75 days". Maybe "three or four days" would have been a better way to state it.

Rust in peace.

Tesla was producing more than 5000 a month with the Q3 sales numbers. Obviously they wanted to produce more, but in October the demand fell off the cliff. **Tesla (or any other automaker on the planet) cannot sustain a $80k+ vehicle at 60,000 units per year.** To sustain these production levels, the majority of sales will need to come from a sub $70k truck, just like all other full-size trucks.

Yeap same length commute and about same amount spotted!

There wasn't really any hoops. I messaged the mods asking for access. I assume they just look at your history and see if you're out there starting shit or whatever.

This is correct. I have an unspecified date range that I look at posts made within a Tesla community to make sure you're not an asshole. If you claim to own a truck, then you must prove ownership. Unless I can see proof of ownership in profile. I honestly do a fair chunk of work trying to let people in. *Just be aware that we have a bot that shows us the top subreddits you post in when you message us* Some of you people participate in... Interesting... communities.... Some people request access, get the notice of "You need to be active in sister communities", *then* start participating, like we don't know how to check your post history and won't see you first post was after requesting access. They're denied. Participation in toxic subreddits is a tricky spot. Sometimes I approve, however, there's a caveat that you'll be banned if you particpate in then going forward.

More range would certainly help swallow that outrageously high price.

Imagine a brand with 1% share pushing the price trend.

Tesla announces a lot of things lol

You would buy a car that’s practically guaranteed to break at 40k?

Tesla does a lot of things too - You?

what I’m saying is they’ve announced the same thing before so I’m doubtful. I do things all the time, but that’s none of your business is it

I suspect the early specs of the tri-motor were extremely optimistic about in-development 4680 cell line. Maybe their prototype cells were amazing. Production however hasn't been revolutionary in terms of cost and weight savings per kWh compared to 2170. Couple that with the poor development/yields and delay of dry anode, it was going to be difficult to justify a 200 kWh pack. I just wish they were more transparent. I can understand the price increase, but to handwave decreased specs with "no one wanted that range anyway"- that's 100% bullshit.

Could also be a critical machine broke

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Burn it with fire

Surprisingly, the Cybertruck is the #3 best selling EV in the US. Despite Tesla treating preorder customers like $hit, once the price dropped, sales picked up. If history tracks, they will continue the same plan. I'm sure by 2026, the CT will be $50-60k

We have had brand new cars under $20k with essentially the same safety features as of today and it wasn't even that long ago. Safety features are not what make car prices go up so double bullshit hit from you right there. Did you learn your behavior from a zoo monkey?

No it’s Tesla’s fault that ICE pickup trucks are $80K

It's the TMZ of the "business" world. It's basically a tabloid these days.

I've driven one and despite all of the problems despite all of the hate, I love the aesthetic and I still would have got one... If the driving experience wasn't total garbage. I for the life of me cannot understand some of the decisions that were made, The comically small rear view mirror the insanely unsafe visibility, The steering wheel is obnoxiously small for no reason, putting steer by wire in a truck actually makes it worse because it's so twitchy and yet so big, The air ride makes it sway back and forth just a little bit at higher ride heights. It's one of the worst vehicles I've ever driven. Existing stock isn't going to move it's going to be heavily discounted probably by about 50% and they're going to have to go back to the drawing board with a refresh.

That makes no sense, they're getting paid for not working, so they aren't saving on labor costs here.

that's not what i'm saying. they *might* lay off linemen *in the future* due to poor sales. hence the part where the comment i replied to says it's a prediction, which is usually referring to the future :)

Quality issues? Like what?

80k isn't abnormal for a truck, unfortunately

Still too much. The exterior fit and finish of the cyber truck is more like that of a $5k beater.

They still need people to operate the robots like puppets because they are still a decade away from automatic functionality.

Interesting and I own a Cybertruck. Took delivery last Tuesday. I was curious as to why it was set to private.

People like you are why we can’t have civil discussions on the Internet. I give a reasoned response that you disagree with, but not only don’t you give any examples to prove me wrong, you make an ad hominem attack on me. Please show me a sub-$20k car that has seven airbags in it (that's what the Model 3 has), and that does not get horrible ratings from IIHS. Unless your idea of "some attractive features" means no safety features... put up, or shut up.

Also in Southern CA and there's actually one parked in front of my house right now. They're becoming very common here but of course not yet as popular as the ones that have dominated America for like 60 years now. The range is also an issue for "real truck drivers" who actually use them for work but most of the truck buyers in the United States are vanity buyers who just want to make a statement.

The Model 3 is at a very competitive price with incentives.

I don't think it's fair to bundle in R&D costs to the sales price. Steer by wire MASSIVELY reduces parts (which lowers costs). 48v MASSIVELY reduces wiring (copper) costs. Rear steering - ok, that's gonna cost more to make. The R&D for this vehicle (like steer by wire and 48v power) will ultimately be used for all of their vehicles. It wasn't single-product R&D, it's companywide R&D.

Paid time off?

If it were applicable, you can buy it now and claim on your taxes for next year. That's what I'm doing.

I don't see how that would've worked.

Worst vehicle you've ever driven? Must not have driven a lot of vehicles then.

Yeah this just feels like a factory reconfiguration or something

he wanted to build a tank

I think that's a pretty bad guess I own 3 including another Tesla and have driven everything from sports cars to diesel trucks. The ride experience of a CT is straight up terrible. And nobody wanted it to be great more than me but man does it suck.

98 Ford Ranger was my first car. Fell apart by 06.

I own a cybertruck and would never consider buying something that ridiculous. It doesn’t even look like a triangle!

That’s cool

Even if CyberTruck isn’t a complete flop it will still always be a squandered lead. These problems are so avoidable, it’s such a shame.

No one goes looking for a car because it has 7 airbags. You are not relying on authoritative data to form any coherent arguments. In all likelihood, you have never even bought a car. I have bought several and I can spot someone who doesn't know what they are talking about a mile of cars away. Not my fault.

Not everyone has the same incentives, so you're looking at $45k cost plus tax at least for a new one.

It’s a tech demo

Unbelievable the artist managed to make something genuinely worse than the actual cyber truck

Besides a few software fixes as recalls, i know there was an inverter recall. I’m sure their quality people have stats. The Y and 3 had a lot of design iterations the first 2 years or so.

It could also be "don't come in for a few days, we're secretly training bots to replace you"

> there’s no way of confirming if this is related to a demand problem or something else. Because doing one minute of basic research is hard for journalists. Why do people insist on posting garbage articles from hacks that would rather speculate than get easily obtained information?

Interesting. I wasn't aware of this recall.

The website shows 0% right now for $42k, but federal incentive makes it $35k. Combine that with gas savings, way less maintenance, and the cost of ownership is quite good compared to the average car price.

The car actually does not look anywhere near as bad in person as I thought it would

Way rather have a Lexus Gx

Indeed. One can only wonder where's that $30k Tesla car that was promised. With that government incentive, we'd have a $22,500.00 car. Tesla would sell them faster than a rat runs up a drainpipe. It's stock would finally go up high for a real reason and the industry would be incentivized to also come up with affordable cars. Not to mention the thousands of new jobs in manufacturing this would create. It'd be a win win. Win.

Agreed. People just love to hate. I've gotten to the point now where I couldn't care less if people don't like the way something looks.

People not that long ago were always complaining that cars had no "soul" because they all looked the same, someone does something different and suddenly its "*look at me, look at me!!"* Haters gonna hate

It's not a prediction, it's what you wish for! be honest with yourself at least

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Fun fact: teslas are only made to order, there’s a good chance those are purchased and owned by some company rather than individual customers

Literally nobody has been complaining about half ton trucks lacking a soul. Nobody. **Nobody**.

Oof hard disagree its proportions look even worse in person. Its hideous 😂

Not everyone can utilize the full tax credit.

To be honest at least where I am the cost of insurance on the Tesla makes maintenance and gas savings a wash. But still I paid 35k pretax which is super competitive even with ICE cars.

Is it safe for an employee to share any details?

😂 appreciate that! Take my upvote My dumbass didn’t realize it was a link to an article when I had first commented, then came back to click it.

3 days… non-story

I always knew how the Cybertruck would be and knew it would be quirky. But the biggest downfall of the truck is the pricing and range for the tri motor variant. Even with the crazy inflation and what not, I was expecting pricing to be 55K for base 65K for dual motor and tri motor would be 80K. I never expected them to meet the 40K MSRP. And then range is disappointing for the tri motor version. Or the fact they don't even offer a 400+ mile range stock is absurd. You need some battery pack module!?! That takes up 1/3 the cargo space!?! Absurd. This thing has a 140+ inch wheel base. If Rivian can stick a 150kwh battery so can Tesla of all companies. I was hoping for 300+ miles of highway range. The Silverado EV achieved 400 miles at 75mph!! Yes it has an extra 100kwh and efficiency is worse but still truck buyers will want that extra energy capacity.  Overall the Silverado EV just does the truck, tech, and luxury aspect pretty well. And for 90K it's not even a terrible price. If I'm being honest I'd probably pick that over the Cybertruck. Oh and another fail is that Tesla doesn't have 800v charging infrastructure. Other charging stations have had this for what? 5 years? Cybertruck is kinda pointless with 800v architecture so far. I'm hoping the new Model Y will have 800v and a 90kwh+ battery for 350+ miles of range. It's annoying Tesla limits battery sizes to 80kwh for the 3/Y and 95-100 for the S/X. Model X needs at least 110kwh. The Y needs 90-95kwh. Model 3 is okay. It's fine if they make it an upgrade but some people like to camp or don't want to charge for a 300 mile highway roundtrip.

The incentives that will be gone in a month?

I’m in the minority here, but I would love a small ev pickup. A Rivian R2T would probably suit like 99% of my needs

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No one wants these ugly trucks 😂 ... accept kids who think they're the coolest inventions ever, and also older generations had a war world 2 vet come check out the truck. Today when at the range a lady was all inside the truck. Happens often. I love giving tours of the truck ... https://preview.redd.it/yvqge1j7ir4e1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4537da65b95d231cef970410c6eac21d888a3d68

Continuing to pay workers points to maintenance or reconfig and not “there aren’t vehicles to build”

I was down for a 50k, AWD truck with those features. That's now $75k. I'm good, thanks.

Nah he’s FUD through and through.

I believe Cybertruck is the 3rd best selling EV overall in the US, more than X/S.

Where are you getting 60k from?

Nope 😭 what are they gonna do, fire me? From my Reddit account? Good luck 👍🏻

What’s the weighted average price of each car sold. I doubt more than 15-20% pay 48k or more for a car. Biden would still be in office if the average person in the U.S could afford to buy a 48k car.

Not really helping Nissan.

Humanoid robots? I saw that BMW has those.

Cybertuck

A Santa Cruz EV would bea really useful size. I'd love that.

Lol.

and?

The Mistubishi Mirage has 7 airbags standard and starts at $16,695.

I’m not sure if you think that’s disagreeing with what I wrote, but amusingly, it isn’t. Firstly, Elon isn’t a reliable source of information, even about himself. He says what he thinks he needs to say in order to achieve something at that time - whether that’s pushing a team of engineers to meet an almost impossible deadline by announcing an even tighter one, or making up stories to explain the origins of a truck design in order to manipulate people’s perception of him. It could be true, but equally it could be nonsense. You need to be less credulous when it comes to things Elon says. Secondly, the whole story (whether true or not) plays into exactly what I said - it was supposed to be a meme from the beginning, and that includes its irreverent ‘origin story’. It’s designed to demonstrate that Elon does massive five year, multi million dollar projects just because a kid draws a picture. What a hilarious guy! He just doesn’t care! He does what he wants! For some reason he desperately needs the world to know that he doesn’t care about doing things the accepted way, and every so often that makes him produce silly, performative products like the CT.

How do we get our deposit back?

There you go with your ad hominem attacks again. So, you don't believe that people look for cars based on safety features? Volvo made it their selling point for decades, I guess that was a waste for them. Hilarious that you believe, because of your “special ability to spot it from a mile away” that I’ve never even bought a car. I’m not sure what that has to do with market knowledge, but I would suggest you look back through my posting history, and you’ll see in 2013 I was one of the first people to buy a Model S. I confidently say, with all of the evidence you’ve presented so far: I can spot from a mile away that you’re a blowhard.

I had said: >You’re never going to see a car under $20,000 “with some attractive features” because of modern safety requirements. I don't really think the Mirage econobox fits in the same category as a car that has "some attractive features," (what the original commentor wanted), but hey, I'll give it to you that you found a totally usable car that starts at 15% below $20k, so that's hope we can get a decent car for $22k-ish. I didn't realize it started this inexpensively. As for WHY car makers don't promote these cheap cars, make them more desirable... it's because they don't want to, they kind of want to limit their sales to meet what's needed for CAFE Standards. People want SUVs and trucks, and those have massive profit. Many of the small cars being sold by American automakers are essentially compliance cars (i.e., sold to meet CAFE Standards) at a tiny profit, sometimes even a loss. They make so much money on SUVs and trucks that they can suffer a loss on the compliance car, whose sale is needed to meet CAFE Standards. Travel overseas and you'll see plenty of really nice small cars not sold here - and you'll also see a dearth of trucks and SUVs.

When I read your comment I was thinking "ok, an American referring to a truck as 'small' - this thing is going to be massive compared to 'normal' trucks in Europe"... but I take it all back, because I looked up the specs for the R2 and was pleasantly surprised. I mean, it's not 'small' for over here, but equally, it wouldn't stand out as being too big (unlike the CT, which would just look silly). And it's smaller than the average pickup here.

I had an R1T for a while…it was much smaller than the “go-to” F150. R2T would make a lot of sense to most over here.

Tell me you are a bot without saying it out loud. WTF??

what tuck?

In the order page in the app just click Cancel.

You need to use a supercharger sometime. It's a non issue. Ten minutes to pee every 5 hours is perfect. Tesla has all the data. They know less than 0.001% drive over 300 miles in a single shot. Dragging around dead battery weight for no good reason lowers the overall mileage for all drivers. Superchargers are literally everywhere now. When I started my state had one. Now we have over 20.

That is what leaders do.

FUD

He's a bot

Yet CT outsells them more than 2 to 1.

All you need is a time machine to go pre COVID inflation.

25K in Colorado currently with state incentives.

Well, it’s demonstrably not what most leaders do. It’s morally questionable which is why a lot of people would shy away from that sort of behaviour. However, I have no interest in his reasons for doing it, or whether it ever works. The point is, whether you agree with this approach or not, once you understand that he does this you can no longer take anything he says at face value.

Shocking. People don’t REALLY want this odd looking monstrosity

It makes sense now I read that Rivian have plans to launch in Europe in the next few years. If you want to sell in volume globally you need more sensible sized vehicles. Especially with trucks, as people don’t really buy them for their size here - if you need capacity you get a van. Trucks have a much more limited appeal compared to the US.

for starters the range is really 80% of the range. You don't charge to full with the Lithium nickel batteries and you don't drive it to empty. So, 500 becomes 445. It is a truck that tows, 500 miles becomes 250 miles when you are towing, that is more than enough time to pee. 300 miles becomes 150 when towing. and in reality, it is not 300, its 80% of that so you have 240 miles of range which becomes 120 when towing which is pretty much what all the reviewers have said. charging every 120 miles is futile. Sure if you are just driving around town that is probably enough for most people, but again that wasn't what was advertised 5 years ago.

It's something that lives in your head rent free until you experience it. After a week you won't even think about it. I know 40 people that had the exact same worries. None of them have any worries after actually driving one. You spend almost zero time at super chargers because you charge at home 99% of the time. It actually saves you a ton of time vs having to go to a gas station over and over. You are listening to bots too much. In sitting in my pre conditioned cyber truck - it's the most technically advanced car on the planet.

I get it, i work from home so i really cant justify a tesla for a daily driver. The only time i drive is taking the family on camping and vacation trips usually about 400+ miles away. If i bought a tesla it would sit in my garage 300 days a year. So i bought tsla instead.

Very smart move.

I love it when I was told it was pure function over form. Seeing that it’s now form over function just doesn’t make sense.

MY is still running full production. Only cyber is down.

Yes

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Yeah I am pretty sure this was already investigated on a previous post and that was the conclusion. The factory line needed to be reconfigured unexpectedly and there was a parts delay at the same time so they did this kind of last minute but will ultimately lose less money. If the trucks weren’t selling and business was bad they would be laying off the workers not giving them free pto.

I don't know why people can't just accept that different people have different tastes. I love the cybertruck but I'm far from being a "look at me" kinda guy.

Ah yea, forgot about that. I think in my head I just decided to forget about that one, because RWD in a truck makes absolutely 0 sense to me. No truck should be 2wd only.

Safety features are important but they are available in all cars and have been, by law, since the mid-80s. Volvo just was kind enough to make them paramount back in the 70s as there used to be something called empathy back in those days. Why are you even here? You're not even buying a car.

My reservation would have been converted if the truck they promised was actually the truck that came out.

I was in the market for a truck and was considering a MY at the same time. I was interested when it was planned for $39k at 70+ no thanks. That is a hell of a lot of money for something to sit in my driveway. Once I saw that it was more "cyber" then "truck" my interest dropped to zero.

Don’t own a Tesla. Reserved for the $100 We went to test drive a Y for my wife last week. They thought I was crazy for not claiming as everyone else reserved has bought. I felt like a celebrity. People in a blue collar city bought without even test driving. There is no test drive demo where I live. Crazy.

Or he is just a human that says a lot of things, as most humans do. Especially ones that think a lot, and then are always asked what they think….dont hate the player

I didn't realize that all cars have the same safety features. You should tell the IIHS that their car safety test results are a lie. > Why are you even here? You're not even buying a car. Total cognitive dissonance you've got. Talking about empathy and then insulting me in the next sentence. This sub is for Tesla - owners, and those interested in them. I own two Teslas. And you? What are you here for, asshole? You know what? I don't give a shit. I've been civil, but you've been an asshole in every post. Say whatever you want, or not, I don't give a shit.

He’s famous for making misleading or outright false statements. He does it more than most people in his position. He’s admitted he does it in order to push people. It’s really as simple as that. Im not even judging that behaviour (so you can stand down - you don’t need to defend poor Elon), I’m simply pointing out that it is what he does, so people shouldn’t take him at his word. That’s not a controversial position, is it??

My point is you could literally put anyone in his position, and there would be similar nitpicky critiques dissecting what he said and everyone would have an opiated take on it.

A similar thing happened to those waiting on the Model 3 - when a completely new mode like the Model 3 (not the Model Y, which used the majority of the same parts) or the Cybertruck comes out, there are tiers of options, and Tesla invariably offers the higher or highest spec first to recover costs. Only after the early adopters take the plunge and the cost of manufacturing comes down will Tesla (eventually) offer lower spec/cost versions. I wanted the low spec Model 3, but like many others, ended up getting a higher spec version, because I'd put off buying anything else and couldn't wait. I think Tesla's understanding that trickle-down strategy is meeting with less success with the Cybertruck.

I’m not sure what that has to do with him lying all the time. Yes, his constant stream of opinions on every subject known to man get dissected - but that doesn't explain why he lies. But ultimately, I don’t care why he does it. The point is that no one should take his word on anything because it is well known that (for whatever reason or reasons) he doesn’t tell the truth. That is literally all I’m saying. No need, or point in defending him. His lies are a matter of public record.

I own 2 teslas. When Ii see a CT, it makes me sad.

That or a larger SUV ala the rivian R1S or Kia EV9. There is a huge demand for that type of car and Tesla completely ignored it for one of the most polarizing cars in history.

I had three on reservation (for personal and business use) and cancelled all three. Reasons for cancelling: 1. Front bench seats. I have a 7 seat model X, and I use them all the time. I could live with 6; 5 is too few. I also wanted my wife to be able to sit next to me while I drive (in a wholesome way👀). 2. Motorized doors. This may seem silly, but it’s honestly one of my favorite features of my Model X and at one point Elon did say Cybertruck would get them too. 3. Rear window. I regularly pick up 10’ lumber, pipes, etc. I can do that in my Model X. I was really hoping the rear window in the cybertruck would open for this reason, and to allow AC/heat into the bed for camping. 4. Price. I really wanted that 2.9s for $69k. $10k more: fine. $20k more: oof. But $30k more, AND losing my favorite features, AND $3500 more for the cool wheels: no thanks. Things I could live with: 1. Range. I’ve road-tripped a LOT in my Model X over the past 7 years, and I’ve come to realize that the ideal range is 300-330 mi (when new), less than that and it can be an inconvenience with slower charging speeds, more than that doesn’t provide much benefit. 2. Size. I was kinda into the idea of a huge truck, 6 seats, and 6.5’ bed. It’s now 6’, although in practice it’s more like 5.5’ because of the angle of the rear seats. Although, there are benefits to a smaller truck, so it’s not a big deal. 3. Spare tire. For off-roading, you need a spare tire, and the fact that it has to go in the bed is kinda lame. But again, this wouldn’t be a dealbreaker for me. 4. Inward facing camera. I don’t know how annoying it really is, because my Model X doesn’t have one, but I don’t like the idea of being babysat. 5. Glass no longer bulletproof. Understandable, but woulda been cool. 6. Stainless steel is a fingerprint magnet, not actually that stainless, and basically needs a wrap. Unfortunate. But wraps look great, so it really just adds a few thousand more to the price, I guess.

What lost me is the CT is available now but Tesla wants to give me peanuts for my 23 model S. We’ve lost 18k depreciation in a year. Total BS

I don't know if I believe this. Only 3 days? I would have thought they'd send them home for 6 months to allow them to sell the dumpsters they've already made.

FOR MAINTENANCE!!!

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This. A lot of insurance companies charge $1000 or more in yearly premiums compared to any other car company (except Rivian).

They’re making modifications to the production line. Cybertruck is the number 3 best selling EV in the US.

Cybertruck is the third best selling EV in the US. Cybertruck has outsold Ford, GMC, and Rivian truck sales in Q3. https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-cybertruck-dominates-us-ev-pickup-sales-in-q3-2024/

Use your big smart brain and compare CT sales to ICE truck sales which Im clearly referring to.

For 80k I'm buying something else. Same with my current Jeep. In 2019 I paid 46k for it. The 2024 model of the same car is 67k. I would not buy it for that.

I work in manufacturing. It’s not that simple.

I mean, it is. Their millions of reservations converted to what? 30k sales?

Other car manufacturers use the helicopter to fly in parts if the production line is stopped and Tesla can afford to shut down for 3 days? Are they even running 24/7?

https://www.teslaoracle.com/2024/12/05/cybertruck-production-halts-at-giga-texas-due-to-the-tunnel-construction-at-the-factory/ Like this.

I love how so many fools here are looking to make up stories that certainly demand is still sky high for this flop of a turd🤡

Same. And Chevy proved it was possible as the Silverado ev is rated for like 460 miles and costs 50-60k

Go test drive one. It is a truck that doesn't drive like a truck. It is the best driving truck out there . Most people are scared of change . But once you drive it you will get it.

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i don’t care about the drive. It’s an ugly piece of shit.

The good news is you’ll be able to buy a used one for that shortly.

That’s separate from what the article says.

I’m not sure if things do cost more for them - they’re incredibly vertically integrated and that gives them an advantage over other manufacturers. But honestly, I don’t know if they could make a cheap EV truck that would actually sell well there. Americans are pretty weird with their truck obsession and the requirements are probably completely different to the rest of the world. So I’m probably not a great judge. Put it like this, most of the stuff that people seem to like about the CT are things that would make it almost unsellable here in the UK.

Or he's planning to do something in that factory. Like something illegal or whatnot

Your loss. You're waste of time hating. And a car handling is important for any vehicle to be easy to maneuver. And Like I said before your opinion doesn't when grown folks spend their own money.

I drove Cyber Truck. My impression was that you can’t see road properly immediately in front of the vehicle no matter how you adjust your seat, but can see lot of sky! Felt like air plane rather than a truck !

I would say - it is both low demand and needing to correct something in the assembly while demand is not that great.

I ordered the AWD 50k. they're weeding everyone out with the big bucks first. Once the demand dies out they I hope they drop it to the original advertised price. Otherwise not buying it

Another price drop incoming?