Tesla Robovan Interior

I couldn’t put together a group of 19 friends to go to a single place if my life depended on it.

We have this ride sharing service similar to Uber but they operate small transports. They will get you where you want to go but may slightly detour to pick up/drop off others heading in the same general direction. I could see Robovan being used for something similar.

You’re forced to detour to be put in contact with other people? Is this service Literal Hell? Well, I guess the bus does the same thing…

It works quite well. The planning software is pretty smart about minimizing the detours...and if you don't want to engage with other people just stare at your phone (funnily enough engaging with others seems to be a not insignificant draw of this service)

Didn't watch event -- is this for a specific purpose why bo seatbelts?

The same reason buses don't have seatbelts.

These motherfuckers gentrified the bus….

Ro-Bovan

It’s smaller. You could just use two of these instead of a bus.

Does most public transport have seatbelts? Regardless, that would be the most trivial thing in the world to add or remove.

I don’t think this would have the same purpose nor the same surrounding safety measures as buses, it’s much smaller than a bus.

It’s a bus with an unqualified and erratic driver?

Gorgeous Edit: Wow tough crowd

I just keep thinking of iRobot when I see this van

Why do they have to be friends? Looks like a bus to me

Sounds like most buses I've been in tbh. Bus drivers are crazy

Bus drivers are the right amount of crazy required to cut off aggressive drivers and keep to their schedule. As opposed to a driver that simply isn't sure what it should do.

don't laugh at the idea. There is a big market in US cities for high end clean and safe buses

It'd fit in great at an airport, or Vegas strip or any super busy location really, especially as a bus since most bus rides in the USA aren't that packed

That’s the use case Elon was talking about in the unveil. I agree it looks like a bus but there was no indication it would just normally be going about in some nonstop loop.

The event was literally "We, Robot." I think we can all draw a highly educated guess where a lot of the inspiration came from.

Looks like it was designed by people who never take transit. People don’t want to face into the middle / face backwards. On a UK train, at tables of four seats the first ones taken are always those facing forwards.

Porn shoot

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Typical Elon. Said 20 people, the picture has only 14 seats 😶‍🌫️

I’ll take something smaller than a bus if it runs more often and knows where to stop to pick up or drop off.

I could see this being used as an airport terminal shuttle. That's the vibes I'm getting from this.

Maybe back when I was 19, but certainly not now at 29. lol

Didn’t even notice that but wow

People can stand up in the middle, just like current buses.

Interior is way too small for that purpose, where would luggage go? Average bus used for tarmac->plane transfers are designed to hold 70 standing passengers + 18 handicap seats + all of their carryons and cost on average 350-400k. Fully electric versions are coming out of China starting at 450k. Even at 100k a pop (a very generous price assumption) Robovan can't compete with those numbers.

How many banana boxes?

Or people mover to rocket…

https://preview.redd.it/9gtb2vus65ud1.jpeg?width=592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3e95a9e3c2fe9d1e30b6afcb09d5df6890a0310 Robo-van that I liked...

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Minibuses are a thing.

The first concept vehicle that shows my dream of a self-driving RV just might come true

You'd aggregate riders based on origin and destination and assign then to this ride.  Like that version of Uber where you share a ride to save money.  They wouldn't run fixed routes.

Will robovan be able to go over speed bumps? I have seen a lot of marks on the bump near our street.

Ro-BoVIN*

Its a van

Best we can do is pay 2 consortiums $200 million each

All long distance busses but local busses not so much although some states mandate that too. Also depends on the size of the bus (larger usually safer) and expected speeds it operates in.

How long until we see this in an upcoming "Bang Bus" episode?

The difference is that busses have things to hold on to. This does not. People will fall over immediately when this things accelerates or brakes.

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And where exactly are they holding on to keep balance? Busses where you stand you usually have pole or something to hold but there is none here.

It’s lucky people never take luggage on vacation. And nobody in a wheelchair ever flies anywhere. Or old people. Or people with babies in pushchairs. Edit: A small, undivided exterior trunk does not make this suitable as an interior for a self-service airport terminal shuttle. There are totally different accessibility and security requirements to make it safe and practical for all the different people who will need to use it unaided. A self-service airport shuttle interior will look very different, and much less cool, so they’re not going to feature it in early promotional material. And people need to understand that saying that *this particular interior* doesn’t work for the idea proposed by *that particular Redditor* is not criticising the entire concept. Stop being so sensitive.

Those white seats will become brown within the first week. There's a reason why public transport uses those ugly patterns. It's to hide the dirt.

Looks like a cool futuristic train car. Instead it's a bus/van that looks like it can't handle potholes or clear speedbumps. I wish I could be excited for this but I just can't believe in it.

This product is in a prototype state right now, it is most likely not gonna be mass produced for a very long time, years. They'll have time to address those issues.

For The Boring Company Tunnels I would imagine

Concept and nothing more. We'll never see it

Sounds like you've never been on a London underground.

Agreed that's most likely, but that's not how a bus works. And if you had all individual riders, how many intermittent stops would you have with 20 occupants? How much longer would that take? Uber only aggregates a few riders to carpool And if you had 1-2 riders each, why wouldn't you get a smaller cybercab instead? The use case for the product as highlighted in the unveil was more about having a large group of people together. Which I totally think is very niche (when we do have that, we call 3-4 Ubers, which works well enough). I can't see this as being all that more fast/efficient/convenient...

Just a thought: this might be the perfection form of public transportation that would “connect”people from existing public transit to the last mile of their destination. For example. The bus stop is 2 miles from my house. This guy could make the rounds from nearby bus stops and drop me directly off at my house. Additionally it could take me from the bus/train stop the last mile to my place of work. Interesting..

Similar issues. Beyond luggage/space issues, it's just not cost-effective or design-efficient compared to a generic light-duty rail system. Reduced capacity, increased maintenance requirements, lower energy efficiency, and lower lifespan. Average light duty rail carriages and subway cars are designed for ~30 year lifespans of near-continuous service. Siemens has >99% uptime SLA's. Imagine if instead, you now needed every carriage to carry it's own battery system and required it's own electric motor, and also needed quite a bit more maintenance in the form of tire replacements and less robust brakes. It's like saying a rail system could be replaced with Hyperloops filled with Model 3's. Cool in theory, falls apart under due diligence. I'm not saying it won't or can't succeed as a bus or a bus replacement, but there's scenarios where buses are appropriate and scenarios where light-duty rail is appropriate.

A robotaxi could do that too, cheaply and much faster. Imagine getting on this bus with 19 other people, and it taking a route that drops off 10 others before you.

Very common in Africa and SEA. You hail a minibus or truck going the same direction as you. Tell the driver your destination and hop in. It's not very fast. But it's cheap and it gets you go your exact destination without taking different busses.

Robotaxi won’t fit my whole family in it.

A single uber won't fit my whole family when we go to the airport. But there's a pretty big difference between a vehicle that comfortably seats 6 + luggage, and one that seats...20.

So it drops off 2 other families before mine in the neighborhood. Big deal?

It will also be available for cargo hauling. Ever needed a vehicle for moving your furniture?

> how many intermittent stops would you have with 20 occupants? You aggregate origin and destination to reduce stops. > How much longer would that take? Slightly to a lot depending on the ride. Taking public transit today is a time penalty too in most cities. > And if you had 1-2 riders each, why wouldn't you get a smaller cybercab instead? You would, unless you were price conscious. A bulk ride will be cheaper and taxed by governments less especially if entering a "congestion area." Options are good.

Short bus

I lived in London for years and commuted on the tube. AIUI tube trains travel in both directions, so the seats are more direction-agnostic. This robovan I’m sure will go forwards like a regular van/bus.

Or Westworld

Bro just make a bus

This is all pure-fiction. This van will never be released for self-driving transportation.

Well as you know, there are many seats facing towards the sides.

Yes, they are to make space for people standing. I doubt people will be standing in this van. Anyway, my main point was that the van has half the seats facing forward and half facing backward. Why? It seems awkward if it’s public and you don’t know the other people, and most people would rather face in the direction of travel for comfort reasons.

I'd imagine the seats could be removed.

Hiring it for a day as a U-Haul would be a better use case for me than a party bus imho.

Yeah I’d guess it’s for shuttling people from a garage to an airport or concert venue.

It’s a prototype

For some, yeah. For others getting off a 10hr flight with young kids, maybe a bigger deal.

It’s important that no matter if you’re rear ended or head on - you get to look your projectile human in the eye as they’re inbound.

I don't think those seats will remain white for very long.

At one point, Elon almost said the magic words. "Personal Rapid Transit" Elon/Tesla are about the only people who could build a functional, useful PRT. If it used q 2-3 person pod for most trips, on a grid layout elevated track, you could build a surprisingly cheap city transit system that could get you anywhere in a fairly large city in about 20-30 minutes without exceeding 30-40 kph and no fixed routes no intermediate stops.

He said it can hold up to 20 people based on configuration.

frequency and network are the biggest hindrances to people using public transit. Both are limited by the cost of drivers and buses. Take the driver out and all of a sudden you can go to smaller vehicles with 5 minute frequency rather than a big bus with 30 min frequency at the same cost and capacity. Obviously in some areas demand exceeds what the capacity of this van would be able to handle. A larger vehicle or just a regular old subway would still be relevant.

They said it would be configurable based on needs. The shuttle I take to the airport seats 10 people and has room for luggage. This would be the same thing if you just replace one of the rows of seats with a luggage rack.

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They could add options when you buy it. What’s it for? Bus? Add more seats with less space and some poles. A family car? Add less seats but more spaced out with more entertainment. Seems pretty easily customizable.

You hold onto the person in front of you.

They literally showed you this at the event.

The Cybertruck will never reach production either. Pure vaporware.

Don't worry, he's got the concept of a plan!

Well it’s a prototype… not a rendering.

I continue to believe people will never be pleased.

Tesla when they didn't include this minor detail (30% of their claimed capacity): i forgor 💀

You tell me where those seats would go…

Tesla when they didn't include this minor detail (30% of their claimed capacity): i forgor 💀

they sit on your lap

That's a rental car shuttle, not a people mover like OP described. And yes, with some modifications this could serve as a replacement for rental car shuttles. In fact, that's likely the best case scenario as it has a relatively short, static route with real cost-savings to be realized for removing the driver.

Let’s be honest, 95% of people around here had their minds made up before the unveiling happened and were going to hate it no matter what.

I had to google this to understand what he was saying.

Did the designers ever use roads/public transit? Too low for street, no safety features: rails, seatbelts. No place for bikes on outside of vehicle, people do not like to face backwards (nausea) these seats will be difficult to clean, appears to be slippery flooring (tsla doesn’t understand rain time and time again) also that floor covering does not allow for standing passengers even if rails. This thing is a prime example of Tsla pitching an idea and not making a product that would be mass market. Idk why the deviated from what people want to more just iconic aesthetics. Looks cool- won’t be mass market. Also why not scale up cyber truck, fsd, semi, the robot thing prior to losing focus more. Tesla seems like an idea company that has lost focus with too many projects. Best thing about it is it gets people interested in electric… an actual product would be better though. It would get people using electric

so its basically a small bus that is going to dynamically change its route based on where people want to go?

People who designed it have no experience in public transportation.

Would you be pleased if a vehicle with this interior turned up to take you to the airport, even though you couldn’t bring on all your luggage with you? Or if you were in a wheelchair? Or had a baby in a pushchair? Or were elderly? Or would you instead think that maybe this particular interior layout doesn’t really suit something like an airport shuttle?

Does nobody remember taking a super shuttle home from the airport? It was just a giant van or small bus with a bunch of people going to different locations. You signed up ahead of time and they dropped everyone off at their home. This seems like a great vehicle for that type of service.

This already existed in the form of super shuttle.

Not at all. This service used to exist and was used all the time. It was called super shuttle. My parents used it all the time when I was younger.

[https://images.app.goo.gl/McaGRz5Uxq37j9T26](https://images.app.goo.gl/McaGRz5Uxq37j9T26)

Well, that’s called a Bus.

There was strong evidence Cybertruck was always a real vehicle. There is much stronger evidence that Tesla is not only very far from robotaxis, they are very far from supervised FSD regulatory approval. In the best case scenario this thing will launch in 2035 and be competing with Waymo in every major city with 15 years of robotaxi experience and a half dozen other companies.

If you are Musk, you just make a group of 19 people.

https://preview.redd.it/qa6evmcbr5ud1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e02406276430ad81c7624cdfcc52186522b36a3 ???

They said they are configurable. So, I'd imagine they could set one up to transport people and their luggage.

Last mile transportation is pretty low capacity, since pretty much everyone is going somewhere different; you don't need a big van like this, you want the 2 door robotaxi.

That is what the Model 3 is for.

We’ll have to wait and see.

I ended up turning it off unimpressed.

looks like an AI generated image. Wish they showed more of what you get from a self driving vehicle.

There's absolutely the use case. But is that the way to change the world? A better version of the Airporter? My main thought regarding CyberCab + 20-seater is, the former can absolutely be world-changing. The latter....kind of an odd in-betweener that leaves people coming up rather niche use cases just like an Airporter or minibus. A full sized bus would probably have more social/global impact. A train would. And something more than HALF the size of a 20-seater, that seats 6, 8 or even 10, would as well.

There seem to be 14 seats in this van that seats 20 people.

RoBOvin

Yeah I really don't understand the super low clearance. Honestly the van feels like a pure prototype. I'm not buying this form factor or that they won't prioritize a smaller van first.

Ro-Bovine

You can have one of these in 2033

It really depends on the market. I live in the Los Angeles area so I can see a ton of uses for this. Transport to airports, sporting events, concerts, beaches, commuting to downtown LA from Long Beach and surrounding areas for work, etc. I used to drive 30 minutes to the train station then sit in a train for an hour when i worked in DTLA. It would have been so much more convenient to just sign up for one of these shuttles to take me and other people in my area to downtown LA. As someone else mentioned this could make public transportation more useable. There aren’t any bus stops near me that are convenient. So I would never consider a bus. But if there were options for that last mile drop off the. Buses and trains become more feasible in the urban sprawl of major metropolitan areas that are currently car focused. There are definitely buses for a vehicle like this. Someone has to invent the vehicle and then others will invent the business’s that use them.

So, a bus?

It always amazes me how willing people are to opine confidently about something they know almost nothing about.

What does this thing do if it encounters a speed bump?

Yeah I was thinking RoboCop as well

Seatbelts will be mandatory even though no one’s driving the thing

One of the main points of a large vehicle like a bus is to carry as many people per driver wage/benefits/management overhead as possible, to amortize that cost, but that's no longer part of the calculus. There's also a fuel efficiency argument, but the regen braking on these in a stop and go route is already such a colossal win over diesel and friction brakes. Maybe 20 people is what they thought was a good compromise between energy efficiency per passenger and flexibility.

Take your few friends and move with the van party

It felt very Westworld to me

So this is a worse version of a bus? Man if they just made an electric bus instead that would be sick

Would have preferred a usable delivery van if not standard sized family van Going to say it, this presentation had nothing of interest to me other than the indirect statement my 2018 with HW3 will not be able to perform FSD at full

Yeah, this particular configuration just isn’t good for a self-service airport shuttle, but it doesn’t mean that others couldn’t be.

Exactly - small exterior luggage storage doesn’t make it a self-service airport shuttle. It fails in terms of space and accessibility. An airport shuttle will just have to have a less sexy, more functional interior configuration.

It would be rad as a family car/small rv

So just have two of them. The biggest benefit of big buses is that they require just 1 driver. Robovin requires the same amount of drivers (zero) whether it's just one or many. So it's not a big deal if you need to have two Robovins, and it gives you more flexibility. I think the size is good.

Ah yes.... a bus.

Yeah but who knows, we'll probably find a way to stack people which is way more efficient

But what does this offer airports that their current shuttle and transportation systems don’t?

In the US this would not last a week still white.

Yeah if you could add an Rv option with a bed and small kitchen and stuff that’d be sick. I’m sure once they are out, there will be a lot of 3rd party start ups if they don’t offer customized options.

Same! Is this the R in SEXY CARS?

So basically a redesigned shuttle/bus?

squeeze in 5 rows in stead of current 4 rows, make one seat in each row fold up so that you can access the other rows while still seating four per row. Sounds cramped and like getting on and off would be a chore, but should be far more usable than the hypothetical 7 seat configuration of modern CUVs like the Model Y.

Totally. And on that topic I bet they chose robovan as the name partly because then they can say “the Tesla RV”—they could’ve called it the cybervan or whatever but that wouldn’t be the same

Squeezing anything won’t happen with americas obesity rates

I can't help but notice it has 14 seats, not 20.

> There was strong evidence Cybertruck was always a real vehicle Give me a break. It has been reported many times the prototype was a horrible mash of a regular vehicle frame with stuff stuck on top and it was RUSHED in a massive, massive way. You're still just nay-saying.

Isn't the R for the roadster?

Do you realize that vehicles can be customized to suit certain needs

I've flown a few domestic US flights, and they're as cramped as the ones we have in Europe.

Thought he said Roburban. A mix between robotaxi and urban.

It’s probably a bot since it couldn’t understand what you were showing.

Ride Hail App Options $19.43 - Dedicated Seat - Most Comfort $14.33 - Stranger sits on your lap - Moderate Comfort $12.93 - Sit on strangers lap - Least Comfort (or most, depending on preferences)

You're right. Funny how the R is duplicate and also on both ends of the scale of speed, size and comfort.

Well… I usually don’t hold them and play colossus — trying to keep balance even during emergency braking 😂

I can’t wait for the homeless in Miami to take a shit in the middle of all that

Is that not exactly what it is?

A) No handrails for people standing B) Removing luggage the furthest in will troublesome. C) About 10 cm of ground cleaners will not work in snow. It's design above function for a vehicle that is meant to be sold to businesses. There's a reason Volvo has way more EV trucks than Tesla. Businesses want functionality not a dream vehicle...

It’s really nice, I like it.

if they’re anything like the model 3 white seats they’ll be very easy to clean if anything gets on them

I love tesla stuff but that looks hideous

You need to “invent” neither the business nor the vehicle. This already exists. Guys with sprinter vans are doing it in every tourist city on earth. I’ve taken it - you sign up with a form online and they make a route. Routes and timings are built around events/attractions. Thats what makes the utilization high enough to make it worth it. In a normal every day city use case it doesn’t really work well unless it’s like NYC where there is constant demand for public transit. But in that case you haven’t really changed or improved the world - you are just canabalizing higher capacity/more efficient subways and buses.

Why are Elon / Tesla the only people? If it’s an elevated, dedicated track this would be trivial for about a dozen companies to build vehicles and routing software for. At that point its just tremendously more expensive light rail

It seems clearly meant to belong in a pure autonomous vehicle future where collisions aren't a concern.

Of course. And I don’t think this particular customisation would work for an airport shuttle.

It will look dated quickly, but overall, I think the interior is nice

Yes - that must be a different interior configuration to this one, or there would be nowhere for the person to go when inside.

It's obviously going to change to fix real-world issues if/when it releases, this is a broad sketch.

That really wouldn’t work as a bus interior in terms of accessibility. I’m sure more practical interiors will come, but that interior looks better suited to private travel, and just for cool looking press shots.

A driverless electric vehicle doesn’t exist yet. Both of those unique features reduce operating costs and in theory could reduce user costs. My point anyway was not so much the exact scenario. But vehicles like this open the door to people far more creative than me to invent use cases for them and businesses around those ideas.

Welcome to the future of the 1970s.

I couldn't 19 friends...

More like “R you ever going to deliver the roadster?”

But then you have to pay for cleaners? Might as well just have a driver too and save the billions in r&d costs

I imagine the airport model just removes some of the seats and installs racks. like the ones at the airport now.

in the video they showed a demo of automated robotic cleaners for the cybercab at the charging station. not sure if they’re doing the same thing for the van, but it looks pretty promising for when it comes out some time this decade

Cyber Tuk-Tuk?

I’d rather walk.

Lame can't even fit a lot of people

Maybe there’ll be a combo deal for a dose of ozempic with every ride

No seat belts or air bags?

FOO fighters

WeWork?

Guy’s telling others to stop being so sensitive when he can’t handle seeing a transport shuttle concept without a built-in ramp or enough storage for all his inseparables lol

Cool concept! Looking forward to never having it exist

Also cloth seats are bad for public transport. Take it from someone who sat in urine for 5 stops while wondering why the seat was so cold. It was impossible to see at the time that it was saturated

Yes, along other things like handrails and spaces for wheelchairs it would look very different.

Anything but a train

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You’re right. Tesla’s prototypes sure do make it to production!

Perfect for heading to the capitol for a “peaceful protest!”

But again surely it’s cheaper to pay a cleaner than billions for robots that can do it?

that's when the transportation companies start making your seats smaller like airlines did

Where's the wheelchair tie down?

"Thanks for the F shack. Love dirty Mike and the boys"

> they are very far from supervised FSD regulatory approval. Aren't they doing supervised FSD right now?

Vaporware?

It’s lucky speedbumps and potholes don’t exist.

Wait til 10 new Yorkers use that for 5 minutes, there will be puke, pee, spilled coffee, some type of animal shit, scratches or tears in all the leather seats, doors bent dented or broken... This as public transport will only work in Switzerland or Norway, countries that known how to take care of things. In the US it will only work as private transport.

[Simples](https://www.travelandleisure.com/culture-design/architecture-design/double-decker-airplane-zephyr-seat-design) 🤪

The bottom 6 seats will have someone sitting on each persons lap

The bottoms 6 seats someone sits on your lap

Because, to build it is a political decision, and he's the only one I can think of who might understand the potential and the clout to get it built. You obviously don't from you description.

https://preview.redd.it/ezg1lgm4y6ud1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e9555c5c20fa0ae3dac7ba109e254b2deffa35d

Look like a comfy, roomy coffin

https://preview.redd.it/xbpd7hw6y6ud1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc67dd0762d305583e02540daace42818286a0dc Only way it’s going to fit 20 people. It’s 14 seat config and no room for more. Also, no seatbelts, hand rails, nonslip surfaces, bike racks

Place your bets on whether we'll see the new Roadster or this get to production first.

I meant "unsupervised" FSD, allegedly 2025 CA & TX. I think that means geo-fenced L3++/L4 with 3000-5000+ mile critical intervention rate. Versus robotaxi would be a general purpose L5/L6 solution with no steering wheel and 50,000+ mile intervention rate. FSD 12.5+ has a critical intervention rate of < 100 miles per multiple testing outlets and even the Tesla community. Which has some decently strong arguments is not even safe for supervised FSD. So Tesla is targetting 2019 Waymo (although at a larger scale) for 2025 but IMO will not be there until 2029 or so.

Not me, but I also don't believe the finished product will look anything like this. The brain is the hard part, it is easy to modify the body.

These would be a hit in California Wine Country. Just have them running between the major vineyards all day.

I assume you are alluding to the new Roadster, the single prototype that has not made it into production. So the record is OG Roadster, Model S, Model X, Model 3, Model Y, Semi and Cybertruck all went from prototype to production, and the OG Roadster still has not. So they're 7/8. I'll take it.

It’s the CyberTruck all over again. Can’t believe people thought Tesla would actually make those.

Yeah this’ll definitely get made.

Autonomous shuttles have been around airports since 1971. Nothing new about this at all, unless you consider 1971 technology “New”.

AI image generation?

It's for the school bus shortage.

Explain how a non-staffed bus that anyone can get in and out of, defecate, have sex or drugs in, is safe and clean?

Should have been a double decker.

>Its a van Is it really though?

I think it's supposed to be for people who like each other.

Returns to departure location.

Based

fix the "anyone can get in and out of" part

If they’re only designing and making this product for private groups traveling together they’d be limiting themselves to a very small market. If they intend it to be a robotaxi that functions like a small transit bus, it would have a massively larger potential market.

Like airport shuttle services

Oh man don’t zoom in too close on that

How exactly would you do that if you don't have a buss driver?

Theranos

Yeah, my cyber truck looks great parked next to my roadster, semi, and $25k car.

Same, roughly a minute after Leon started talking. I didn’t even make it long enough to be unimpressed by the robovan.

Elon was making an obscure joke calling it ruh-boe-vin, pretty sure its very much robo-van

From [Elon](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1844669182354358308): > The unusually low ground clearance is achieved by having an automatic load-leveling suspension that raises or lowers, based on smooth or bumpy road conditions

https://x.com/Tesla/status/1844581432515006665 > "Robovan seats 20 & can be adapted to commercial or personal use – school bus, RV, cargo"

Okay. Musk invented light rail - got it.

When you realize there would be no EV car market without Tesla, but still cry about their ambition.

I wonder if this will fit in the vegas boring tunnels? it looks rather large but it could replace all the model Ys in the vegas tunnels and it could do it rather soon

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It seems to be marketed as a van, not a bus.

That is something anybody that has ever used a bus notices. Of course it can be changed, but the fact that something so simple and obvious has been overlooked, doesn't speak for the quality of the design process.

meh

You don't have busses in Miami?

Reddit, including this place, is just one huge anti-Musk circlejerk. People literally cannot separate the twidiot from the product from a different company. I feel bad for them, since that's all they think about.

A bus?

Isn’t this just a bus or monorail w out the rail?

Their only objective was to make this thing look like it belongs in a sci-fi movie. Everything else is secondary.

This is that taxi in total recall

This is that taxi in total recall

No, they don’t have shit in Miami

Is this interior or a concept of interior?

iRobot the company that makes Roomba actually

An app for access. If someone uninvited enters ask them to leave and call the cops. Same as an Uber driver I guess

We out of work 

Pretty sure they were saying that the quality of the cybertruck is that of a prototype

Damn very insightful

Did the event even insinuate that this would be used as an airport shuttle? Also I think of they just bolted a few grab rails and some luggage racks instead of some of the seats it would solve those issues pretty simply, no?

Yeah, but again, what size is the global market for a private bus of this size? It’s not something the average family will be interested in. They must have a decent sized market in mind.

But there isn't a driver, that's the point. Who's going to call the cops? If a homeless man follows in a paid customer, who deals with it?

Others are speculating if this van can fit in the boring tunnel in Vegas. If not, perhaps the cybercab?

AI + automation.

Fraud.

Elon makes things that look great but don’t work….like my ex

True.

Very apt handle.

That’s cool. iRobot style

"I, Robot" the movie, or iRobot the vacuum?

Wrong robot.

Ruhbovin.

Tech bros will do ANYTHING but build a bus

Van looks ugly AF, on the outside. Inside it looks like its one giant disaster waiting to happen. EDIT: Lets see how long my comment last for simply stating my opinion which is negative.

😂

I was just thinking…all that effort to produce what is essentially a bus or a train car.

Looks sick

https://preview.redd.it/7milbwi8m8ud1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33faf828c79438594a9dd81d63074f624b69d7ab I had to actually watch the video because Google was pretty far off

Here in Australia, we had a bus driver try to drift around a roundabout. He crashed and [killed half the wedding party.](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-30/hunter-valley-wedding-bus-driver-joked-before-crash/103896860)

wait it all makes sense now..

What does it look like after it hits its first speed bump?

Almost certainly not going to replace many of them. The big advantage of the Boring Company is that it is point to point. Having that many people in the car with you would force you to stop at places you don’t want to go. I do imagine at some overload conditions they would give up and add some to clear out the crowd, that or to run between conjested destinations or when big groups travel together.

The Boring Company is competing with light rail in every dimension. Although most of that is how poorly run transit companies in the United States are. Internationally it is harder to compete.

Wow - it's the first time in 25 years that I've heard that name.  Are they still around?

Ro Laren 

How about they make something that works first.

In Musk's defense. It was probably his first time seeing that word.

van life crowd might love it

Remove the seats and this RV would be lit!

I want one if I can configure it like an RV and me and my family go chill in it while it drives us to a national park and we sleep in it too.

Makes you want to film a future retro cyber punk yakuza brouhaha scene in here The two clans call a truce taking a trip to to a neutral site in the Kyoto mountainside The transport is limited and some henchmen from rival sides have to rideshare Imagine the bloodied scene when.. They are amicable and debate earnestly with each other respectfully Only to be cut down by the left handed sword of monetized censorship that is marketing The horror

Thanks for the F shack Love, Dirty Mike and the Boys

How is that cheaper than a train with an outboard power supply? More weight, more material, less capacity, needs charging....

No seatbelts?

>Did the event even insinuate that this would be used as an airport shuttle? No. I’m replying to a Redditor’s suggestion about this particular interior photo, not talking about the event.

What’s the point of this van?

we must forgive...but never forget

I can see a campervan.

Rowan

A robot will beat a human in labor cost. After breaking even on the cost of the robot, all labor received is basically free after that. 1 time purchase fee, at less than 1/2 the 1 year pay for a taxi fleet cleaner

This looks so cool!

Vomit comet. Backwards seating? No windows? Good luck with that.

[https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g62579353/tesla-robovan-gallery/?slide=6](https://www.caranddriver.com/photos/g62579353/tesla-robovan-gallery/?slide=6)

If someone thought that a giant, heavy van that only seats twice as many people as a typical SUV or mini-van was a technological advance, then there's a bunch of super-robots to sell them.

Ru-BO-vin

Every air port large enough to require a shuttle service already has a better solution than this

I honestly don’t think so. The robot will be hugely expensive to buy, need additional staff to monitor and manage them all. Maintain software and hardware upgrades. 5 year life cycle at best. Licence costs, insurance costs. Someone will steal them, mess with them, damage them etc.

The vacuum

WeTransfer

Vapourware

They might also install a drivers seat and steering mechanisms in case the system ever glitches and you need someone to manually pilot the thing so the airport doesn’t clog down. Another thing they might do is tie a bunch of these together on tracks so a bunch of people can hop on and off them at regular intervals. Le epic innovations

You realize “people” at airports have luggage 99.9% of the time right. They wouldn’t suddenly dump it just to get on your magical “people mover”

That doesn’t give them a pass on broken promises.

Boring company projects are competing with tunnels and taxis, not actual transit. LVCC is literally just an Uber Green in a 30 mph tunnel. It’s not even autonomous. Hotel shuttles are more efficienct transit

Rehoboam

"Westword" was one of the destinations at the event.

> and if you don't want to engage with other people just stare at your phone even simpler, order a private robotaxi instead of a seat in a van.

People said the same thing about the Cybertruck. Seems they were wrong.

This is not special.

They’re not promises, but you pretend they are so you have something to be mad about. Tesla has done more to push forward EVs than anyone else despite sad naysayers like you.

Imagine if he built electric buses and worked with municipalities to build autonomous automated routes. But, no…

Meth heads will love these things.

Future

Huh. I thought people like you were an exaggeration. Fascinating.

Attacking me proves you have no argument. That’s twice as sad.

‘Sad naysayers like you’ Do you even listen to yourself?

China has been producing these for a while now

Personally, I find something like this better suite it to shuttle people around like at an airport. I don't really know how you're gonna get 30 random strangers to agree on what to watch on the single screen. Most cases people would just use their cell phones to watch movies on Netflix or a chat with a friend. I see the screen being used more to just keep the passengers up-to-date with what's going on.

No, “seats 20” https://x.com/tesla/status/1844581432515006665?s=46&t=adrg5D_xGEA1–yoKvw-Pw

So all these seats are bolted down and unremovable?

You're not supposed to make logical comments on reddit.

I assume so. You wouldn’t want people able to just take them out in public transport.

My point is, they are removable and will have different layout for different needs. They may not be easily removable for random people to do but definitely require some tools.

Did you even read my initial comment before replying to it?

But worse

https://preview.redd.it/1wbrrrkpjdud1.png?width=974&format=png&auto=webp&s=7abd22a28fa1c6a2d182a0dab057508b92f8aeb7 oder sowas ;)

This seems like not too many people per pod, using not much more space? I can see why you'd do mixed for some destinations, but the cost of running pods less than full isn't particularly high.

This part??????????? "It’s lucky people never take luggage on vacation. And nobody in a wheelchair ever flies anywhere. Or old people. Or people with babies in pushchairs."

>A self-service airport shuttle interior will look very different, and much less cool, so they’re not going to feature it in early promotional material. >And people need to understand that saying that *this particular interior* doesn’t work for the idea proposed by *that particular Redditor* is not criticising the entire concept.

Showcasing the future, but choosing to retain Fahrenheit as the temperature

I can see this on the Vegas and other hyperloops. I don’t see it in sweaty stinky rainy Orlando theme park spaces.

It’s a freaking loaf of bread, it can be easily modified to fit whatever is needed. That’s the whole point. Not sure what you are getting at.

A person said that this post, a photo of the interior layout, looks like an airport terminal shuttle. I point out that it doesn’t. Of course the vehicle can be easily modified, but we’re not talking about the vehicle. We’re talking about this posted image of this particular interior layout.

Where’s the seatbelt?

How long till people have public sex in one of those?

never heard of a concept before lol. some small regulation details will be added for road approval. plenty of modes of transportation have backwards seating. disney has backwards seating on everything.

So it will predict the road? Like an oracle?

Rub Oven!? I thought they closed that place down

You can see it because airport terminal shuttles already exist

i can see this being used as a personal people mover, like heathrow pod. the robotaxi is disappointing tho

heathrow airport has been using this for a decade

What’s the use case for this ?

"sToP bEiNg sO sEnSiTiVe!?!?" - Guy literally on a tirade over someone's innocuous suggestion this looks like an airport terminal shuttle

Literally the dumbest shit. I used to get excited for Tesla events and releases. Now they’re just some guy going “ye, so um, pretty much the future is gonna be awesome. There’s going to be more parks”

So no seatbelts? Just die if get in crash?

Never mind the hardware, let's see the FULL Self Driving software. Or is it remotely controlled by a human?

I only see 14 seats, I thought I could fit 20?

Same as if a homeless man follows you into your own car. Assuming the keys to enter is your cell phone, it's a private vehicle and not a public one.

You realize that S/X already do this right? There's so much fleet data, that it's trivial at this point.

No seat belts?

Yep, shuttles already exist. This is nothing new.

Yeah but it is also fair to point out the very low ground clearance or lack of wheelchair accessiblity

It’s a prototype. There isn’t even a release window for these yet. I’m sure they’ll figure out a wheelchair ramp by 2030.

That's is also a valid point. Show cars don't have to be road legal, and they often do change from the flashy eye catching version to production

Yes I realized and I saw exactly yesterday, how it 'works' sometimes...

> Obviously in some areas demand exceeds what the capacity of this van would be able to handle. A larger vehicle or just a regular old subway would still be relevant. Why would that not be solved by scaling number of robovans? Lots of demand = 8 Robovans.

You might get unlucky and 19 other people have to be dropped off first, but not often, most of the time they will only take a few passengers at a time. Without the cost of diesel and a driver, there is no large cost per km that is required to be recouped on every trip to avoid making a loss on the trip like a large ICE bus. Having a 20 person capacity is just to maximise the max capacity when all the passengers ARE going to the same destination.

Finally somebody gets it! All the fools here complaining that it cant take as many people as a $1B train/light rail setup OR its too big compared to a taxi, or its too small compared to a 50 seater bus. It can do ALL of these things as its cost per mile is so low without a driver it can do the job of a small taxi, and with FSD on a loop it can replicate a massively expensive rail setup with minimal setup cost using existing roadways, scalability using more or less robo bus units depending on demand, and it could go from not existing to up and running in a matter of days (using existing roads). People here on Reddit have no vision.

Why fixed routes? That is only a cost saving measure to be used when an expensive vehicle, driver and diesel fuel is expensive. These could be Uber point to point, that pick up and drop off other people along the way for super low cost.

maybe we can finally have public transit but we would have to get rid of the people that ruin things for everyone else

That’s fine. Just make it functional and efficient. Idk where it comes from

WeChat oh wait, never-mind

they said can sit 20 people but i keep counting the seats and there are 7 on each side which is equal to 14 so the other 6 are standing in the middle or something

They ain't ever gonna make this shit

A Tesla Brovan How can you guys eat this shit up with a straight face?

Lovely concept. Come to CES to see more concepts that never see the light of day for a decade

Damn Winnebagos are so fancy these days. Slap some wings and rocket boosters on this baby and head to Mars!!!! Teslaballs, The Movie!

It’s a bus

No room for wheelchairs