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I wonder what the price tag on this thing is going to be
School bus would be huge. Schools are hurting for bus drivers right now, it's a hard job to hire for when you only need a driver for the morning and afternoon with nothing in between.
Is there any consideration given to wheelchair accessibility in the vehicle? Are lifts integrated like existing public buses, or is there level boarding somehow?
I was literally just saying to my girlfriend I’d love to buy one if I can make it a room on wheels, with my remote job it would be nice to just have it drive me to the next park or city while I’m working or sleeping
You would still need an adult to supervise the children lmao
Is it going to be cameras only? 😱😱
Admittedly it's been a few years since I was in school. But the bus driver never supervised us 😅
I’d imagine what’s on a bus for wheelchairs would be at least an option on this thing
No sane parent would put their child in a car that doesn’t have a driver
When though?
Schools would need an adult to supervise. Cities might use these in place of their current transit buses though. Definitely a 50 person version. Huge market there
Oh, my sweet summer child…
AI controlled Tazer!
Anywhere from 3 to 10 years, possibly 15 but less than 20
Ignorance is bliss as they say
roBOvan
Preorder for $50k launch at $200k+, 2-5 years after the announced date.
Bus drivers don't usually intervene much but having NO adult present with the kids is a different situation. Like, an "almost certainly illegal in most jurisdictions" kind of situation.
I just noticed the RoboVan looks exactly like the van from iRobot. Prob not an accident.
Usually making sure nothing funny happens at pickup / drop-off, dealing with medical emergencies on the bus, ensuring no one gets left behind alone on the bus, ... They do more than just drive to point A and B.
28k now, 450k when it comes out in 2056 and it will look just like a regular bus.
i've personally known children killed in a school bus with a driver. i'd probably be at least as likely to trust my kids to a Tesla van in a few years.
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That’s so funny .
Optimus
Getting some animatrix vibes.
Love this idea!
Screw a house, I want the RV version or diy into a RV
Appoint responsible older children as prefects
Sometimes I really wish this sub had a "sort by TSLA holdings" option so I could better understand the rationale behind such over the top optimism.
Especially since the phrase “We, Robot” was plastered everywhere.
An adult that can supervise children on a driverless bus doesn’t need to obtain and hold a bus driver license.
Would be a cheaper job than a bus driver. Or could be part of the shift of a yard aid type role. AM shift, bus, recess, lunch Pm shift, maybe lunch, custodial after lunch, bus. Although after some quick googling they don't make much, but at least you're getting ~8 hours instead of like 4-5. Hiring would be easier
Any day now! "I really would consider autonomous driving to be basically a solved problem, I think we're basically less than two years away from complete autonomy." - Elon Musk, June 2016
Why is that a shock? Tesla has been going down the vision-only path for some time now
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I was thinking this might be good for the Vegas tunnel project and subsequent projects like that.
Yeah ADA compliance is a must for this to work.
People in LA are sticking their kids in waymos now. The high school by my place you can see 3 or 4 waymos dropping kids off at once.
School busses are I think the least likely option, since you’d need adult supervision for a group of kids. City busses or even airport shuttle types could be a good thing if they get regulatory approval.
“Coming next year” since 2016
So how do other countries manage it?
Yeah, a camper van sized self-driving RV is an idea that my wife and I have been talking about for years. Can an adult stand up inside of this one? I wonder if anyone brought a tape measure with them. Although, if it's using the skateboard chassis then it might be possible to put a different shell on top.
You can still short TSLA while believing in as a company. Shorting is generally for short term due to the borrowing cost.
Exactly. Lord of the Flies style...
Subsequent projects? Do you know something we don't?
Nope. But based on how they are trying to increase boring speed, I always figured that the Vegas loop would be somewhat of a proving grounds/beta for future projects.
I imagine other countries put more funding into their schools than we do. In the cities I've lived in, bus drivers are paid ~20-25/hr but only for a few hours a day. No one wants that type of schedule unless they're being paid for the full day.
> I imagine other countries put more funding into their schools than we do. Other way around, the US puts more money into public schools than pretty much anywhere else.
The first guy who came out of it was in a wheelchair IIRC
Don’t we already have public transp?
We live in a rather heterogeneous society. Where I live, public school funding is laughably low. To the point where the student's parents have to fund-raise for everything, including teachers' salaries.
A transit bus sized version doesn't seem necessary, that makes sense to make the best use of human drivers but these are autonomous so just get 2-3 robovans \[which presumably will be less expensive, more efficient and flexible to operate\].
Roadster 2020 vibes
Most recently proposal is the Texas A & M "Aggie Loop", from a few days ago. No guarantee that is approved and goes forward, but having a van option improves their value proposition \[\*or even undermines it, as the robovan could just be run on existing roads\]
Could be, its a good point. I'm used to full buses but there's nothing saying a 50 person bus would be cheaper per person than 2, 25 person buses
Until we have a price, hard to know. My assumption is the smaller van is less expensive not only due to be smaller but presumably produced in higher volumes. How that works out per passenger seat, purchase wise and operationally, remains to be seen.
Yeah, but at 20 kids per robovan you’ll need like 4 of them for every bus you want to replace and I bet it’ll be harder and more expensive to get 4 supervisors rather than 1 driver.
They will make it an extra duty for teachers
Teachers already have home rooms in their classes they supervise in the morning.
Could you imagine the mayhem of 20 middle schoolers on a driverless robotic bus?
https://preview.redd.it/vwefrsj3m9ud1.jpeg?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bd3aef8fc06d47418063da36fee1cd1d81f0e2e This is when 😂
Self driving busses already exist…busses is quite easy to make self driving as they always follow the same route.
yes
Literally everybody stood up inside the video and walked out without crouching 😂 yes people can stand up in there
Only on the VR world tho. Because this thing will never make production.
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