BYD Sealion 7 vs Tesla Model Y — why did you choose BYD?

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Some tesla owners seem to really give the aggressive ranger driver vibe. Glad its not only me thinking that. They love to tailgate the dolphin 🤣

There was a big article in the local newspaper exactly about choosing a byd and Tesla y. The byd was ok , let down by frustrating technology that did not operate smoothly as other brands. The drive was solid without being impressive. The inside of the cabin was very nice. The Tesla y was 4K more expensive but if you are minimalist, the reviewer said it drove better , technology was more intitutive and reliable . He ended up suggesting that while the byd sealion was a solid car , you should see what else was out there.

Im finding the byd hard to justify too. It's not much cheaper, for AWD vs AWD, the range difference is huge, charging speeds are slower and they're slower. I'd love to support anything besides elon but the competition isn't great

I reckon if I bought a Tesla my wife would have castrated me

Then stay the fuck away from our superchargers! I am just joking 😂

I own one, but I have been noticing this a bit. Look at the number plates, it seems to be a bunch of now 3 year old model 3's. I suspect is what is happening, is they are all coming off the leases hitting the second hand market and are being bought up by the same dickheads who used to buy second hand commodores.

For ethical reasons I will not buy a Tesla. As I remember it, Musk forced people to go to work in his factories during COVID despite a stay at home requirement and people died as a result. He was also involved in USAid being defunded, an organisation that saved huge numbers of lives a year.

Why are the reasons so esoteric and not at all related to the vehicles? Is this a pronoun thing?

Elon is a nazi

Picking our SL7 performance up when we get home from holidays this week. Why did we choose the BYD. Interior is nicer in our opinion, it actually looks like a car inside with buttons for the essentials things you need to control. Outside is very nice, though personally I do think the model Y is a little nicer. Performance is close enough that it wasn’t a factor for me. Ride was comfortable and I don’t intend to drive it like I stole it on the winding roads. 4.3s 0-100 is enough for when I feel the need. Range is less but as it is primarily for around town it is a non issue as I can granny charge it each night. Which leads to the fact it can be charged to 100% with less issues than the model Y. BYD dealer is 5 mins from where I live which makes it a bonus as well for me. Lastly as someone else stated my wife would also have castrated me as well if we bought the Tesla.

My Mate bought a BYD and has to take it to the for software updates.

To the what? Mine gets over the air updates.

This

Same

How fast do you need to go? Are you a racing driver? If you are, I don't think ether is good for you.

Ive always owned performance cars, speed is a factor for me. Yes the speed difference isn't huge and not the end of the world, there's also multiple other points you ignored that I've made where unfortunately the Y seems ideal

Because maybe some people have beliefs / things that are important to them, and choosing which brands you buy or don’t helps reinforce that? I really like Tesla as a brand, and have for years (since the days they were Lotus wit an electric engine), and when Musk took over I was a big fan. His antics lately turn me off from the brand and I don’t really want my hard earned to further their fortunes. If Musk leaves or they take a better stance, I’ll buy their products again. Notice how I said “I” and my behaviours. I don’t sit here and tell you all the reasons I don’t think you should buy Tesla. You may say that the figurehead is disconnected from the reality of the business - that’s cool, that’s your belief, and go get ‘em. But I’d rather not support that. Same as I’d rather not buy Nestle. I have choices so I’ll try and make them count. It’s all the power I have.

What part of their reasons is unclear? They didn't seem esoteric to me, even if they weren't associated with Tesla mechanics or features. Summary for you: "don't want the car, because the head of the company is evil scum." And, looking at 2024-2025 Tesla sales declines, they're hardly alone in their opinion.

I just don't see why people want to drive a road car fast. It's really odd. Go to the track if you want to go fast.

For me it was styling. I didn't like the hard bruit minimalist lines of the Tesla. My wife also ruled out Tesla because of the brand damage caused by Musk. I also don't like the subscription model that Tesla is leaning into.

This is why I will never buy a Tesla or use anything his company touches. No starlink, no twitter, no grok.

Same. Not sure what his mate did wrong to need to take it in for a software update.

My Mate bought a BYD and has to take it to the for software updates. Edit : Manufacturer

Because I hate that the Tesla has no dash and I think the Y is ugly and overly "futuristic"

Your mate is doing it wrong then, they do updates remotely OTA

It’s a problem, it’s SUPPOSE to have OTA updates…. The workaround it to take it to BYD

I think other peoples interests are odd too. I don't feel the need to comment on it. If nobody cared about 0-100 speeds, they wouldn't be a selling point.

I got a BYD before musk went nazi as I liked the car and the design.. my wife then got herself the sealion 7 as she liked the car and also it wasn’t a Tesla

Same. Absolutely no Tesla product allowed.

The whole Musk / Nazi thing is high in my list. I bought an EV last year and I didn’t even look at Tesla

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Zeekr 7x instead of the MY. The SL7 is hands down best value for money for performance and no frills tech e.g it doesn't park itself and it's lidar feels cheap but overall is a premium cabin feel... However, IMO the zeekr 7X nails everything

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I don’t buy anything from Nazis.

Problem is the AWD ends up more expensive in comparison to a MY, without the reputation to back it

Reputation in Australia.. the 7x has been dominating in its home country

And, yes.. fair point on the AWD

BYD because it feels more like a car. Tesla is too minimalist.

They are virtue signallers

BYD as a company was charged with human trafficking and slave like conditions. Yet people here act as if they are superior

BYD as a company was charged with human trafficking and slave like conditions. Yet people here act as if they are superior

BYD as a company was charged with human trafficking and slave like conditions. Yet people here act as if they are superior

Yes, I know that, but sometimes it can take time to establish Australian dealership networks, BYD still struggles with servicing

CCP ok?

In nearly every measure the Model Y is better, in some cases significantly. The Sealion 7 is a good buy if you want to save money, but it’s not for motoring or tech enthusiasts. It’s good but nothing special, which is fine as that is what I’m paying for.

Yeah I mean I would never buy tesla because of Musk but sure as shit won't be buying chinese cars too.

There's the nazi thing, the strong Is racist/ christofascist dictatorship support by the CEO, and seemingly blind company board. Plus Tesla are no longer leaders.

Then why are you here? Every brand has massive issues. Like the entire VW group lied about polluting the world forever. What cars are ok with you?

I'm not "here". If you're on reddit you should know that reddit shows posts from communities you're not part of. Yeah human trafficking and being a nazi is a bit different don't you think? Basically chinese and tesla can go fuck themselves. I'm ok with the rest.

Cool story bro

You ok?

Let's not mention Nestle and 3M, how about clothes from Temu, anyone have a diamond from Africa? Just for good measure let's add in Dupont, hope nobody is using non stick cookware due to the literal poisoning of the globe with PFAS. I do however agree somewhat with the sentiment, if you're going to be the face of a brand, don't do dumb sh*t.

We’re driving BYDs… probably don’t need to lol

Same here, wasn't even interested in taking a look. Since bought a competitors EV.

It’s funny I actually prefer musk is who he is because it’s public. It’s not hiding in the dark. You know who he is and what he’s about. He’s not some corporate face that talks like a politician

Nazi elon

Yes.

What have you done to help replace the USAID funds that the US government was borrowing money to pay for? How much have you donated, or what sacrifices have you made for the recipients of that program? Nothing? Oh, so not that concerned at all. You're just upset other peoples money isn't used to fund it 😂

This is my sentiment too, I took a Seal over a 3. In saying that tho, I just got my driveshafts replaced and I'm fighting BYD over some major issues after only 1 year of use. Seems to be a disconnect between customer care, manufacturer and service centers, they aren't resolving the issues, just ticking the boxes.

I hated having to go through the touchscreen for everything in Tesla. Signalling was a big one for me, but even the glovebox? I mean, that's taking minimalism too far. Plus the Sealion interior is just more luxurious.

So don’t buy a BYD either?

The interior just seems so much nicer imo

People just need to be honest with reality

I despise the car as it (to me) is just soulles compaired to other brands, but you are really motivating me here to buy it anyway.

Billions USAid money was going to Israel… thank god it was shut down

Are they Nazis?

Parce que j’ai mal au dos et que je déteste être dans une voiture comme devant un écran d’ordinateur sans même une souris pour s’en servir…..

Sounds like your wife already castrated you

Thank you for answering the actual question and not rabbiting on about ethics and feelings. Let's be real musk has issues and I'm pretty sure BYD ain't no saint either.

I bought a model Y in 2022. It was one of the best ev’s back then imo which suited my needs. I sold it and took a punt on byd when I took delivery of my sl7 early march last year. If you’re into tech, can put aside the brand association, and minimal interior design the Tesla is the way to go. However the luxurious interior and overall value no doubt is better in the sl7. Servicing experiences vary differ based on location. I had issues with the tbox which left me with no app access to the car and in car connectivity for about 6 months (this was fixed in late October). Also early adopters of the sl7 have issues with not receiving the OTA (those on software version 2410), and I had to request the service centre manually update this for me. Overall, buy the one you want to drive. They’re very different cars. Good luck with your decision!

Pretty much this. Tesla has good technology and decent range for the price. But build quality is meh compared to other brands (incl. BYD) and in the current environment if you're purchasing American brands intentionally when there are equivalent or superior non-American options out there. Then you're essentially supporting that regime. You might as well be buying a huge boss suit in 1940. I would stay far far away from Tesla until they dump Elon.

Objectively false, and its so bizarre people use this as a reason. Just say he is right wing and you're a soft cock lefty who cares what other people's political leanings are and get it over with.

Each to their own but first impressions (looks and driving) when I first got in the BYD really stood out for me. I get Tesla's gone for the minimalist look but it felt like the epitome of a "Computer on Wheels", not that there's anything inherently wrong with it since that's what they all are.

There’s a non zero amount of people with faulty tboxes who don’t get any of the cellular service connected features including OTA updates with the Sealion 7. Comes up on the groups fairly often.

White power racism was my reason https://preview.redd.it/023aprev63eg1.jpeg?width=708&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=627e7855aecbcba0ba2506bdfd43fa9978b3a3a4

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He literally did two Hitler salutes, runs a social media site filled with nazis and an AI chatbot that is obsessed with jews, IQ and white genocide. He is a nazi. A better arguement would be that Henry Ford was also a Nazi.

Because Elon is one of the worst humans on the planet. I don’t trust him. Teslas have been loaded with vapourware since their launch.

I can understand someone doing that and buying a European/Korean/Japanese EV. It's the ones that say that and buy a Chinese EV 🤦

And nothing to do with the question

I appreciate a response from someone that actually knows both cars. Not deciding base on a photo of Musk lol 😂

Yeah Musk is no saint, but BYD were literally charged with human trafficking and have “space-like” conditions at factories. They also have close tied to and are heavily funded by the CCP, and let’s not even start on the atrocities they have committed. The whole VW group spent decades lying about emissions, and were quite literally founded by the Nazi party. I don’t like Musk as much as the next guy but saying you bought a BYD for ethical reasons is insane.

Aren’t they worse?

Have you tested out the Zeeker 7X? I personally can't take BYDs interior, and I hate Elon.

Tell me why you think the CCP is worse than Nazis buddy, and why Musk’s balls taste so good to gargle.

Yeah same. I remember trying to feel my hands around my mates model 3 glove box trying to work out how to open it so I could grab a mask. I actually started laughing when I saw him push a few buttons on the touch screen to get the glove box to open. Like that is just so unbelievably dumb. I couldn't fathom it. That sounds like a joke tesla haters would make up in order to make fun of teslas. Not be a real feature. This was back in 2021, so a bit before the general population started hating Elon. But I knew right then I would never own a Tesla. I just couldn't drive a car with such dumb as fuck design philosophys

But a lot to do with buyers’ sentiments these days. I think it does kinda answer the question…?

Easy, tiger….

This post just passed by my feed. Im not in Aus tho. In my country BYD throw prices like crazy. The SL7 Premium RWD here is around AU$55300 while the Model Y starts at AU$73700.

I, for one, am aware of that and think on balance that Musk is worse. Im not the OP. I'm not writing you a list of reasons - you'll probably dismiss them as "pronouns things," or some drivel like that. The summary is that Musk is actively bankrolling the transformation of the US from a democracy to fascism.

Chinese companies and government act in self interest which usually isn't ours, Musk is actively a dickhead and there is a more direct link in the purchase empowering his dickheadery

I test drove both and bought neither. SL7 can’t have roof racks and boot is too small due to slope back. Tesla, say no more, can’t give Elon money and gear shift via touch screen js dumb. Bought a Zeekr 7X instead

As opposed to the highly ethical Chinese communist party?

Kek, bro still believes in covid

Everyone I know who bought Tesla’s said they had all sorts of quality issues. None of them considered Tesla when they bought their second EV.

I’m not supporting a company who allows someone like MUSK that to be CEO. Even if he isn’t a Nazi, the damage he did (even the bits we know) though that DOGE stuff has and will harm millions of lives for years. Even if they oust him, he owns it and there are clearly unethical people endemic across the company.

ITT a lot of lefties buying the Yang Wang 300 to spite Elon

You should google the definition of facism.

Good summary. I have mates with model 3 & a Y. Really don't like the minimalist phone on wheels feel. We started off looking at used Seals, but the lack of sunshade thing is mental in our climate. We thought the headroom in the back of the MY25 Seal (which does have a sunshade) was a bit close, so decided to test drive the SL7 which felt a lot better room and practically wise. Also think Musk is a tool, but not a huge factor given few players in this field have clean hands. Ultimately it was the solid cash back offer that sealed the deal.

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People here are so unbelievably brainwashed. Its laughable

Because Elon, Naxi and introduction of subscription services for features.

I'm pretty comfortable looking at what's happening in the US right now and calling it the birth of a fascist state. Maybe you should do some reading - try a history of Germany from 1925-1945, for example.

Amazing how much people are willing to reinvent history. I mean the Democrats literally had someone almost brain dead as president and covered it up. You were ok with that. They didn’t democratically elect Harris to be the runner het you think trump is the problem

Why I stopped buying Adidas and Puma years ago, too.

so brave

2 reasons: - more physical controls in the BYD - musk is a piece of shit

I wish our government acted in our nations interest tbh. That’s what they are supposed to do.

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I'm 40 years old, driven many cars, BYD is the best car I've driven so far, although we own an Atto 3

So then you agree everyone else who has done the same salute (whilst ignoring audio for context) is also a Nazi? Yes or no?

says the cooker

Yes, but you can also connect the car to your WiFi and download updates that way

OTA only operates over the assigned SIM card, you can’t even switch out to your own sim and get bye connectivity features like OTA, app remote start etc. Maps, Spotify etc all work fine over your own sim if yo choose to swap for a higher data allowance. I wish I could update over wifi, our reception at home is horrendous but had to update while at work.

🤖 “Elon bad… Nazi… upset at current left wing thing… beep boop”

what a loser

Elon made me not even look at Tesla. Same with my home battery. Could be the cheapest and best but I still wouldn’t consider it.

I do, actually. And lots of people seem to agree with me. Also, it's curious that you seem to class me as a Democrat. You do realize that I, and the vast majority of readers in a BYD Aus subreddit, will not be American? You have a great day now, sir.

“Another vax plz 💉” … “I’m angry at current thing pushed by the media… orange man bad… Venezuela good… Maduro good… ICE bad… Abbie Chatfield podcast good beep boop” (That’s you by the way…)

I actually hate the Y styling, it looks silly to me, something about the proportions are all wrong. The S on the other hand is one of the nicest cars on the road. Fuck Musk though he's a piece of shit.

hahaha. proper mental illness on display. quality cooker.

Bought my Sealion 7 Premium back in October. Considered many options including a Kia EV5 GT-Line and Tesla Y RWD. For me it was mostly ergonomics. I'm 188cm tall and weigh 100kg. I have 2 kids under 5 so the car is usually carrying the 4 of us including my wife. The Sealion 7 has a much roomier interior than the Tesla Y, especially headroom. It has a cavernous boot which I can fit everything I need in for a day out with the fam (Wagon, Scooters, Esky etc). Granted the car is a longer than the Tesla, but I think the tradeoff is worth it for the extra space. Software was a non-issue for me, the Tesla has more features but I would never pay for FSD or Autopilot. I would never use the native entertainment apps and mainly use Android Auto. The interface on the BYD is lag free and responsive. The menu design could be better but you get used to it and you can set a couple of shortcuts. I appreciate a few extra manual controls over the extreme minimalism of the Tesla but I feel like this is more of a preference issue that your average driver can get used to. The lack of a Sentry mode on the BYD was one area I felt was lacking compared to the Tesla, but the BYD is a few thousand dollars cheaper than the Tesla and I spent less than a grand adding an aftermarket dashcam so I don't think it's a big loss. For the trim, I likely the Sealion 7 a lot more than the vegan leather basicness of the Tesla. Again, personal preference. The Sealion 7 has an inbuilt retractable sunshade on the sunroof and I find it silly that Tesla still doesn't do this. I came from a Honda CRV 2020 model. The driving experience of both cars is far superior in every respect and I honestly am not discerning enough to notice a significant difference between the two apart from the BYD feeling slightly "Heavier". But after 3 months of driving the BYD daily it's the new normal for me.

I also hated that I couldn’t open the glovebox without going through the touch screen. Thankfully Tesla pushed an update in the last month or so that gives you the ability to open the glovebox from one of the buttons on the steering wheel. So that gripe has been resolved for the most part. As per the OPs question, I also own both a model Y and an Atto 2. The model Y is a much nicer car to drive, but I haven’t driven a sea lion, only the Atto and a dolphin. All the people saying that the BYD is better for people who are scared of EVs (or that the Tesla touch screen is difficult) doesn’t ring true to me. When I started driving both cars I found myself searching for how to do everything in the BYD just as much as I did when I had to learn the Tesla interface. And once I’d learnt the Tesla interface it was much more intuitive than the BYD one was. I prefer the parking system in the tesla, it seems to show the sides of the car more accurately than the BYD. i also prefer the Tesla autopilot to the BYD, the one drawback to the tesla is that it disables autopilot when you indicate, which the BYD doesn’t do.

>Tesla pushed an update that gives you the ability to open the glovebox from one of the buttons on the steering wheel. So that gripe has been resolved for the most part. No, that is equally as stupid. You know where the button to open the glove box should be ? The glovebox handle. Its borderline dangerous. Even if your passenger somehow knows that the glovebox button is on the steering wheel, theres no way a passenger should be reaching over and pushing buttons on the steering wheel while someone is driving.

Get a denza b8!

Lol lame trap attempt. Other similar motions that I assume you were going to refer to by people like mamdani were obviously a wave and didn’t have anywhere near the intentional vigor that Elon’s had, or 8 other points making them a Nazi like Elon, yet you nut jobs will screenshot 1 frame and run with it as though the full videos don’t exist. P.s there’s easier ways to say you’d gargle Elon’s ballbag when he doesn’t give a fuck about you

Tesla was heavily funded by the Chinese government too, and has lots of factories in China.

Think of the future savings!!

Why would the passenger reach over, that would be dangerous. If the passenger really doesn’t want to speak to the driver then they would have to still open it with the touch screen. But they can just say “open the glovebox” and the driver can open it instantly, without being distracted by a screen. I’m not saying it’s perfect. Just compared to the previous method of being only touch screen, it makes open the glove box a lot easier than it used to be.

>Why would the passenger reach over, that would be dangerous. Because the passenger wants to open the glove. >If the passenger really doesn’t want to speak to the driver then they would have to still open it with the touch screen. But they can just say “open the glovebox” and the driver can open it instantly, without being distracted by a screen. I cannot believe this is a serious answer about how to open a glove box. Like what is wrong with a latch on the handle that opens as you it open ? That is utterly insane. Can you imagine if your fridge operated like that and you couldn't open it without using a touch screen

\*rolls eyes\* dumb people keep posting edits of people waving, clearly showing why Elon's behaviour is clearly different. The grimace on his face when he does it, the live speed of the salute. You can watch the whole video of his salute, and you can clearly see it's a Nazi salute. But there is more evidence than the salute, there is his Twitter posting record and the types of people he has promoted. If you like the cars, thats is okay, they are very energy efficient and have a lower price than other vehicles of similar ranges. Just buy a second-hand one so he doesn't get the money directly. I mean, I like Kit Kats even though Nestle is an evil company.

What kind of moron would buy a tesla in 2026

Only good stuff

Bro, you can’t just come in and say the truth like this.

Yeah but you dont own a tesla either. That’s the problem, Elon fan boys dont buy Teslas. Once you see him a giant liar you cant unsee it.

I didnt buy a Tesla. Simple.

In January 2026, the Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) officially named the Tesla Model Y the safest vehicle it tested throughout all of 2025. It achieved the highest overall weighted score of any vehicle assessed during the year, excelling particularly in safety assist technology and child occupant protection. https://www.ancap.com.au/safety-ratings/tesla/model-y/ad5601 Software updates and potential for the long term - https://x.com/signulll/status/2013118862078681336?s=46 I don't think you can beat Tesla overall as a long term purchase

Tesla workers are like in the paradise compared to BYD workers

Elon Musk is a Nazi and the CCP also commit horrific human rights abuses both are terrible. But it’s the reality of our capitalist hell scape.

I have the Y and its a constant regret. At the time I got it BYD had only just arrived in AU and I wasnt convinced by the Atto3. But I would drop my Y for a Sealion 7 immediately if it was financially viable for me to do so.

If they're obsessed with "white genocide"? Then yes, of course

Agreed. BYD is not the only alternative brand to Tesla.

I bought a BYD because fuck Musk. At no point did I think BYD is some angel lol

So you are a virtue signaller

Not in the slightest. There simply isnt a good option so I went with the option that made the most sense financially. Also......fuck Elon

That’s exactly why I brought my Tesla

lol. Imagine caring about what an American CEO does but not caring about China. Literally killing the uyghur but you got your car!

Elon (and Trump with him) have really just high lighted how all the world powers are as bad as each other and that ive been unwittingly sitting on a high horse all the time. So after ruling out Elon (because as we have discussed already...fuck Elon) I made the smartest choice financially which was BYD Its been a fantastic buy btw. Thanks for asking.

There are lots of other choices but as you said. You’d prefer to virtue signal than actually care about people

there actually wasnt many choices at all a year ago here. You can try and use virtue signal as an insult as much as you want mate. It just makes me laugh

Well it’s true mate. Embrace it. Get a fuck Elon sticker and tell your neighbours how cool you are

Source?

Is this a some kind of fucking narrative farm? I was curious about people's experience of tesla and byd cars and come to find this cesspool. Internet is fucked lol.

Simple two reasons: Model Y is ugly AF and then price difference is definitely pro-Sealion7

BYD is Chinese, ccp is on the board, they genocided the uyghur culture. They’re not clean.

The Brazilian ‘human trafficking’ case was actually about a groundworks contractor BYD hired called Jinjiang Construction Brazil. BYD immediately severed ties with them when the allegations arose and shut down the site until a new contractor could be brought in. Obviously they have close ties with the Chinese government, just like every major Chinese company and indeed every international company with major facilities in China.

If a Tesla is souless the BYD is dirt lol

Drive a Tesla... It's not a car. If it was you have the standard array of knobs, buttons and switch. And if you drive a road not on it's map (because you can't use Apple or Google) it will freak out, randomly yanking on the brakes.

Sorry, did you just say that the reason for the ccp committing literal genocide is because of... *checks notes*... Capitalism?

I'm not the OP but yes The region where the soft genocide is occuring is rich in resources. It's like a global capitalists loot crate of oil, natural gas,  gold, lithium and rare earths.

... That's not capitalism. Who exactly is committing this "soft" genocide? private companies or the CCP? I suggest you familiarise yourself with the definition of capitalism, especially if you're trying to argue against it. The answer is that the persecution is a systematic, state-directed policy. It's not from capital controls.

>Who exactly is committing this "soft" genocide? private companies or the CCP The Xinjian Zhongtai Group, listed on the Shenzhen Stock Market. Anyway this is a car sub. I hope we both get downvoted to hell.

Didn’t look at them because Elon is a fuck. But feature wise, no CarPlay. I want my native phone apps for music, podcasts, audio books and maps, not the limited selection approved by the car manufacturer.

The Y looks like 2 different cars stuck together.

I own an Atto 3 (but I've test driven an SL7) and recently took a 2 week road trip in a Model Y because that was the only EV rental I could get. This was a 2022 Model Y with like 140,000K on the odo, so maybe not a fair comparison. I think the steering weight and general handling of the Model Y was better, and the refinement of the software in the Model Y was better. But the cabin feel in the BYD was better. I felt better insulated from road noise, less creaks and rattles, nicer place to sit for 6 hours a day on the road. I got very used to one-pedal driving. I got used to not having an instrument cluster, but never grew to like it. I prefer the cabin layout of my Atto and the SL7 I test drove. From what I remember of test driving the SL7 the cabin felt spacious and just 'nice' in a way that the Model Y didn't. The 360 camera view in BYD cars is better (in my opinion) than the 'parking assist' visualisation in the MY. Haven't ever tried or sat in the refreshed Model Y, so maybe some of this no longer applies.

This question comes up often. This is [my comment from 2mo ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/BYDAU/comments/1m5dlhv/comment/nrbogj7/). I considered numerous EVs including SL7 and Juniper and ended up with SL7. No regrets. Regarding your specific questions: **What pushed us away from Tesla:** A mix of things. The tech offering felt lacking, the interior styling reminded me of IKEA furniture and was overly minimalistic, and the price felt high for what you actually get. In our climate, the absence of a sunshade is a real downside. There is no V2L, and while I like the side and rear design, I really dislike the front styling with the Iron Man mask look. Door handles are awkward, the leather is fake, and the car relies too heavily on the touchscreen. There is no HUD and no proper instrument panel. The personality and behavior of the CEO also mattered to me. In comparison, the SL7 was the clear winner. On top of that, the general culture around Tesla owners thinking they are driving a spaceship feels cheap to me. I have seen enough poorly informed buyers who obsess over their cars while driving something that is objectively inferior. **Ownership surprises:** Mostly positive. I have had a few calls with support and some post purchase follow up, and they were friendly, respectful, and accommodating. My expectations were low since BYD is relatively new, but they genuinely surprised me in a good way. The car itself is excellent. The only issue is a vibration noise from the HUD area, which seems to be a manufacturing defect. I have not gone in for warranty yet, but I understand the fix involves replacing the entire unit. **Software and ride quality:** The software is fine overall. CarPlay works well, and while there are occasional glitches, they are acceptable. I do wish the screen were OLED for better night contrast and to avoid backlight issues. Recent OTA updates have improved things. ADAS was initially disappointing, but it has gotten better and I am now borderline satisfied with it. Ride quality is very good. The car is comfortable and quiet, though road noise can be more noticeable at highway speeds depending on the surface. Overall, it is a calm and relaxing environment. I wish the grey interior were available, as only black is offered right now. The suspension is excellent for the price point. The tuning could be better, but it still ranks near the top compared to many other cars. I have not had any servicing experience yet, but the HUD issue will likely be my first visit.

Just adding, regarding “futuristic”: choosing “the future” doesn’t mean it has to look boring. As consumers, **we** are the ones defining what the future looks like. The era when EVs needed to look unconventional to signal innovation is over. EVs are now widely accepted. Car design now and in future should prioritise practicality, good taste, and alignment with real lifestyles. It's our life not a sci-fi movie. Elon has his opinions, but his opinions don't matter, ours do because we hold the money to purchase a product. Tesla made numerous mistakes and now BYD overtook them, they will have no option but to care more for what customers want not what CEO wants us to want.

CPP is better

https://www.google.com/search?q=usaid+money+to+israel&rlz=1CDGOYI_enAU667AU667&oq=usaid+funding+to+is&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgBEAAYFhgeMgYIABBFGDkyCAgBEAAYFhgeMggIAhAAGBYYHjINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTIHCAYQIRigATIHCAcQIRifBTIHCAgQIRifBTIHCAkQABjvBdIBCTEwMTcwajBqNKgCAbACAeIDBBgBIF8&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#lfId=ChxjMe

https://www.cfr.org/articles/us-aid-israel-four-charts

So…not USAid, then. You’re confusing aid from the US with USAid, which is completely different.

It was a subcontractor, not BYD directly, and BYD dropped them when they found out. Meanwhile, what consequences has Musk had for decisions that have resulted in deaths? I think you've strengthened the argument against Tesla.

What decisions has musk personally made that have resulted in deaths? Cite them directly not some an unverified source

A quick Google would start your journey. [But here ](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext) is a peer reviewed study in the Lancet which looks at the results of the USAid cuts.

lol wut. Since went is that musk directly? He was engaged as an advisor. He wasn’t an elected official who directed staff to actually do things. Try to think this through about who is in charge in governments

No, it’s not.. I don’t care whatever you come back is funding of genocide by the US is an abomination….

I agree. It’s just not coming from USAid. And it’s very sad that you’ve been fooled into thinking that a humanitarian body should be shut down for funding Israel when it did no such thing. And now other humanitarian causes miss out because of its closure.

Fooled…. Nar mate.. Fair enough the attached evidence is great, but I find something that Wii prove my theory..

Because our company car list didn’t have any Tesla’s, even though they are readily available and much cheaper leases… in the UK btw. However, I really liked the Sealion 7 as well, so I’ve ordered the Excellence 93kWh trim. It has everything. HUD, Nappa Leather, heated and cooled memory seats, massage function. If it had Sentry mode it would be perfect. The efficiency will probably be the most negative aspect, and losing the cost effective and readily available charging network. My criteria was: SUV, AWD, comfy, decent range, fast charging. I considered: IM6 Performance, Model Y (but not on the list…), SL7, Skoda Enyaq VRS (also not on the list and wanted leather, most Enyaq AWD trims it’s not an option), Ioniq 5. IM6 I’m just not a big fan of. Enyaq is great and would have been an easy choice if the spec I wanted was an option. Ioniq 5 there was only the RWD one Model Y not on the list SL7 was the default choice really as it ticked all my boxes. Looking forward to receiving it in late March.